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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Showing that feminists don't all hate heterosexual male sexuality

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IronPyrites · 06/07/2020 22:06

OK so I am talking about consensual adult sexuality only.

I think there is a feeling, imo an incorrect one, but still a feeling, among many straight men that feminism wants to impose celibacy on all straight men, and hates and derides any expression of male sexuality.
Now, while I think this is unfounded, I wonder sometimes if there is any mileage in perhaps showing some compassion for the difficulties that many straight men encounter in their personal lives in general, and perhaps even that the pain of sexual or romantic frustration is no less real (and perhaps heightened by societal expectations of the straight male stud) for this group of people than anyone else. I have nothing but contempt for the so-called incels who clearly despise and feel entitled to women, and for men who express disdain for and behave badly to women in other ways, but I do think it may do some good to counter the message that you sometimes hear that feminism is anti-men, and showing that there is probably a societal bias against and fear of male sexuality in general. I hope you understand what I mean.

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truthisarevolutionaryact · 07/07/2020 06:13

@madwoman1ntheattic

Ohhhhh like an info-ops campaign? To make feminism more palatable to romantically frustrated gents? What do you suggest, op? Leafleting? Stickers? Have you got a slogan? Designed a flag? I know a man with a plane or two - is there an area of the country particularly in need so that we could fly a supportive banner? Can we have an acronym? RadFemsForRomanticRelief? RFFRR rolls off tongue lovely, so it does.

Is putting out essential? I dunno that I’ve got it in me (Oo-er) and dh might mind. Shall I check?
No, you loon. Feminists do not need to gussy up and dick-tease for their politics to be rendered more palatable. 🙄

Well this is a great thread to wake up to Grin Grin

Shoes make such a change from recipes for us sexy feminists Wink

TheSingingKettle49 · 07/07/2020 07:04

I’m sorry OP bit I really don’t understand your question?

Are you saying that because some men assume feminists hate all men that feminists should reassure them that we don’t? How would we go about doing that?

I mean I don’t want to sleep with men who would make a baseless assumption like that against all the evidence, I’d rather stick with the men who don’t think feminism should be all about them and understand why women need to be able to talk about issues that affect them.

PumbaasCucumbas · 07/07/2020 07:21

Yes, what is your actual point OP?

SpongeBobJudgeyPants · 07/07/2020 07:24

I. Can't. Even.... I have found a fabulous cake recipe involving Guinness that I can make on my breadmaker though!

feetfreckles · 07/07/2020 07:27

Some people think the earth is flat ! What should we do about that? A lack of scientific thinking, is that the fault of feminism? Discuss.

feetfreckles · 07/07/2020 07:28

My nana'sChristmas cake recipe used Guinness. She kept the Newspaper cutting from the 1930's.

SpongeBobJudgeyPants · 07/07/2020 07:30

Are you a man OP? It very much seems like you are, so male centric is your view. And there seems to be quite a bit of mansplaining in it... Hmm

SpongeBobJudgeyPants · 07/07/2020 07:32

Feet. It does make it vair moist... The cake 🎂 that is.

Beerincomechampagnetastes · 07/07/2020 07:36

I don’t understand- relate or appreciate your posts on any level op. I don’t centre men so I choose not to spend to much time worrying about how they feel, but instead how I can protect myself and other women from what some of them do.

I’m here simply for the replies Grin.

LillianBland · 07/07/2020 07:53

@SpongeBobJudgeyPants

Feet. It does make it vair moist... The cake 🎂 that is.
That’s a step too far! We have certain standards here. Swearing fucking permitted, but how very dare you use the word m*t! 🤢
SpongeBobJudgeyPants · 07/07/2020 08:11

I know! I was being very norty Lillian. I new the double entendre would be picked up on within a couple of posts Grin

TheProdigalKittensReturn · 07/07/2020 08:26

Guinness cake? I mean, I suppose it's basically liquid bread anyway, but I'm struggling to imagine a cake tasting nice. And to think people mocked my love for bubble tea last time we had a recipe thread...

wrongsideofhistorymyarse · 07/07/2020 08:40

I have to say, getting the old fashioned gumph ' you're all just lezzers who hate blokes shut up and listen to manly pain' was almost a refreshing change from the newer forms of 'shut up while I gloat about shutting you up'.

I'm getting all misty-eyed for the midnight misogynist.

And here for the replies, obviously.

RadandMad · 07/07/2020 08:46

Will no one think of the poor menz?

feetfreckles · 07/07/2020 08:50

In a fruit cake, Guinness replaces brandy and I think it creates a richer more mellow taste
And the leftovers are much more drinkable

TheProdigalKittensReturn · 07/07/2020 08:51

Ah, so not, like, a sponge cake that tastes like beer.

BigGee · 07/07/2020 09:06

I've made a rich fruit cake with Guinness. Husband (real man who does get to have sex with a feminist, imagine!!!!) practically hoovered it up.

IronPyrites · 07/07/2020 09:06

Well it seems I have upset quite lot of people with what I posted. I hadn't intended to cause offence. I will go away and think hard about what has been said here.
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ScrimpshawTheSecond · 07/07/2020 09:08

I've checked with forementioned shop assistant and can confirm Crocs are assigned for those of the demiromantic/antisexual persuasion.

I hear Clarks have an offer of 1 free lesbian wife with every 2 pairs of brogues, too, get your skates on ladies.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 07/07/2020 09:09

I've made a rich fruit cake with Guinness.

Is that a bit like Christmas pudding flavoured?

ScrimpshawTheSecond · 07/07/2020 09:10

Iron, good luck. Honestly, I wasn't upset, but your argument, it is of the 1850s. We did this one, a looooooooooooooong time ago.

HeistSociety · 07/07/2020 09:10

@IronPyrites

Well it seems I have upset quite lot of people with what I posted. I hadn't intended to cause offence. I will go away and think hard about what has been said here. .
No, we just think it's silly nonsense.
DancelikeEmmaGoldman · 07/07/2020 09:25

Obviously an undercover operative for the Department of Incels and Celibates (DIC), Scrimshaw. They lurk, rather like Father Ted in the lady’s lingerie, attempting to convert radical feminists from the path of righteousness.

You should go right ahead and buy the sensible shoes, your feet will thank you.

TorkTorkBam · 07/07/2020 10:24

I was not upset. I was amused. However I am open to new ways of thinking so I have checked with local men.

By that I mean DH and two of his friends he went cycling with this morning. Also one teenage DS, not technically a man yet though.

DH emphatically does NOT want me to reassure other men that feminists like me appreciate male sexuality and understand their romantic distress. He was quite firm on this point. He seems somewhat upset at the suggestion that I was even considering it.

His two mates were of a different opinion. They said they would be keen for me to educate them and enquired about how this would work. Some suggestions that involved posing flexing biceps to show their, um, credentials were a bit much for DH who ushered them away with exclamations of oi mate and hilarious of talk of wife swapping.

Teenage DS is horrified. I am NEVER to talk about male sexuality online or in irl and definitely not in any way personally identifiable, i.e. traceable back to him. Me saying of how do you think you got made? and your dad wasn't my first boyfriend you know was met with some pained howling followed by an urgent need to do physics online learning immediately. In another room, with headphones on and the door shut. I think I heard him warn his brother not to come to talk to me.

So, a mixed bag of responses there. Not sure what I've learned. I will go away and have a hard think about it. definitely not secretly thinking about DH's fit mates, oh no

BernardBlackMissesLangCleg · 07/07/2020 10:28

I will go away and think hard about what has been said here

yes, think carefully about wearing crocs OP. they're a fairly serious fashion misstep

you're welcome

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