Munroe Bergdorf

[ripples101]

I am trans.

I was a follower of Munroe Bergdorf’s Instagram.

Munroe wrote a post about JK Rowling, calling her a dangerous woman to the trans community. Munroe stayed something along the lines of

“JKR is a dangerous cisgendered, white woman who is causing harm”

I replied to this post, asking why Munroe felt it necessary to mention JK Rowing’s racial identity.

I wasn’t Abusive. I just felt that it wasn’t necessary, in regards to what Munroe was being critical of, to mention JK Rowling’s ethnicity.

Within minutes my post was deleted and I was blocked.

I am trans, and Munroe has silenced me.

So it seems nothing can be questioned. Any intent to ask a question, or to strike up debate, will be met with being silenced.

This is fast turning into propaganda. This is fast turning into thought crime. This is fast turning into silencing. This is fast turning into something it should never have been.

When a trans person isn’t even able to question another trans person, what chance do “people who belong to sex that menstruate”* have?

• Christ, I don’t even feel like I can use the word women here without being controversial.

I am so sorry for people to whom I thought I identified alongside (trans people) who are doing this to you. I feel sick and ashamed of what I am, because of people who are representing me.

I feel like I literally have no space left. And I can’t help but feel that a lot of biological woman are feeling the same way. And you have so much more to lose than I ever will, so I simply can’t imagine how this is making you all feel.

Being white was irrelevant to MB's 'critique' of JKR. Nothing she said that a black GC woman wouldn't and hasn't.

MB also betrays MB's belief - the sexist belief - that only women who share an axis oppression with men are allowed to speak.

It in that context = MBs statement, the post.

I mean, come off it.

I've just answered you, which you appear to have missed, MadBadDaddy

*except that being a disabled white woman, a working class white woman, a lesbian white woman all fall under MB's ban hammer, so scrap that...in MB's fantasy, no white women can speak, regardless of which other axis they share with men.

You don't think JKR significantly upping her media profile and dragging the spotlight during the BLM protests is relevant, least of all to a POC?

As someone who understands and doubtless dislikes feeling silenced, could you not imagine the perception of black voices having to compete with some bored white billionaire being disliked by POC?

Don't make false accusations and then switch onto something else, MadBadDaddy. I'm still waiting for your acknowledgement that you read my post wrong.

@ShinyFootball

'with a vested interest in winding back trans healthcare'

What is this referring to please?

JKR is campaigning to stop all treatment of transgender people by having it classified as 'gay conversion therapy'. Conversion therapy is about to be legislated against in the UK

Erm

People can care about more than one thing at a time.

Your idea that she timed out in order to crush BLM voices is a bit weird.

When should women speak and can we have a matrix based on their personal characteritics please.

Why do you think she is bored? I imagine her life is pretty busy tbh.

And if you don't like bored white billionaires posting stuff on Twitter, shouldn't trump be your first port of call?

'having to compete with some bored white billionaire being disliked by POC?'

What ALL OF THEM?

wow.

And can you believe that Joe Biden is trying to run a Presidental campaign during BLM protests? And can you believe that Johnny Depp is suing The Sun for defamation during BLM protests? And can you believe the gall of those Hong Kongians for dragging the spotlight onto themselves losing democracy during BLM protests? And UN investigators have today tried to drag the spotlight back onto war crimes committed in Syria.

Don’t these people know there is only one spotlight and it can only be shone on one thing at a time and that Munroe Bergdorf is the person who gets to decide where that spotlight shines?

Are you a chronic liar? Or just a propagandist?

The above is a lie. JKR is not campaigning to have medical care, including full transition for adults requiring it to treat their gender dysphoria, removed from transgender people.

How you lie with no shame on this thread and others is beyond me. Literally beyond. I cannot understand the type of person who does that.

She's not campaigning

Do no words have a meaning any more?

*that's addresses to the usual suspect, btw, making false claims about JKR.

JKR is campaigning to stop all treatment of transgender people by having it classified as 'gay conversion therapy'. Conversion therapy is about to be legislated against in the UK

This is a complete lie and defamatory. Reported. This isn’t Twitter, you can’t sling mud here and think it will stick.

Are you a chronic liar? Or just a propagandist?

Given how MBD just misrepresented my post to put words into my mouth which I have never said, was called out on that totally innocent mistake, by me, and is now ignoring it, on this very thread, I think everyone should draw their own conclusions as to that.

People think their fake news will be what people remember. Not on MN, I think.

@NotBadConsidering

JKR is campaigning to stop all treatment of transgender people by having it classified as 'gay conversion therapy'. Conversion therapy is about to be legislated against in the UK

This is a complete lie and defamatory. Reported. This isn’t Twitter, you can’t sling mud here and think it will stick.

Good idea. I've also reported as false and defamatory.

ShinyFootball

All this talk b/c OP picked the word 'white' to criticise in a 5-line opinion!

Trump is no billionaire lol and I bet he wishes he was bored

JKR is not adverse to using the law to remind people that libel is not acceptable.

MN is not adverse to handing over MN user profile details to a litigant.

Some posters would be wise to remember these facts when they post unsubstantiated lies on a public forum.

MBD, are you implying that nobody in the public eye/in general should talk about any issues other than BLM lest they/we distract from it? If so, that’s ridiculous. I don’t agree for a moment that JKR’s whiteness is relevant to the discussion. She was speaking about her experiences as a woman and her concerns for other women. For some reason Bergdorf is trying to make it about race when it just isn’t. It doesn’t take anything away from BLM to continue to fight for women’s rights as well.

@HeistSociety

Are you a chronic liar? Or just a propagandist?

The above is a lie. JKR is not campaigning to have medical care, including full transition for adults requiring it to treat their gender dysphoria, removed from transgender people.

How you lie with no shame on this thread and others is beyond me. Literally beyond. I cannot understand the type of person who does that.

JKR twitter quote "Many, myself included, believe we are watching a new kind of conversion therapy for young gay people, who are being set on a lifelong path of medicalisation that may result in the loss of their fertility and/or full sexual function. "

That quote doesn't say what you claim it does. Quit lying.

It's a slimy thing to say after what Truss said about banning CT

Conversion therapy works more than one way, doesn't it?