Why r/GenderCritical was banned by Reddit

[MadBadDaddy]

Hi! TRA here! Thought I'd take a quick breather from all the crowing, high-fiving, etc. to throw a lifeline to any actual open-minded critical thinkers wondering why Reddit banned r/gendercritical. Basically, you have 2 options when it comes to what to believe:

1. It's a true conspiracy: silicon valley, hollywood & the media are in the thrall of the well-funded TransAgenda, the need for woke points, child-groomers, women-haters, MRAs, etc. etc.

1. r/GenderCritical was hateful - if you want evidence then go to r/GenderCynical which existed to harvest said hatefulness. Read their strictly enforced rules about hate speech, misogyny, anti-feminism, pile-ons, doxxing, etc. (NB: abbreviating "trans exclusionary radical feminist" is not considered hate speech on this subreddit) and then sort their posts by "top" and "all time" and judge for yourself.

The trans men, trans women and non-binary people of Reddit do not hate women and do not tolerate abuse. Have a better day. x

Erm, there was no explanation with what I quoted?
So why the patronising deary me?
Was a genuine question.
If you don't have an answer or don't know yourself, then fair enough.

@FantaOra

Whatever else it might or might not be "TWAW" is society's cost-effective solution. You might win an argument, but you'll never beat the bean-counters.

And this for fucks sake. I don't think I have ever seen such a trite justification for the overriding of female consent and boundaries in writing. Too expensive eh?

What you might struggle with here is that outside of construction there is majority of females in accounting. So that nasty throw away bean counter remark on a feminist chat board is a bit of a red rag.

It was the bean-counters that paid for the fire-cladding for Grenfell, and took the sprinklers away, and de-skilled the safety inspectors. Why do all women hate poor people?

You could pull a muscle, reaching like that.

When my gay male friends sneeringly call effeminate gay men "girls" they are telling me everything they believe about "transgender"

So you have a few gay male friends. They sneer at effiminate gay men and call them girls, that tells you everything you need to know about what they believe trans to be (crystal ball, mind reading powers?) and you post saying from that that shows you trans?
Was a genuine question what has the fact your gay friend's opinion got to do with anything, what has that got to do with being trans?

OP, can you please take your aggression away from this space?

You've had the opportunity to gloat about censorship of women, you've more than had your chance to explain how hurtful you personally found GC.

If you have feminist interests ie areas in which you centre women's needs and rights, please feel free to post on those topics.

Otherwise, to play by your own rules that Hurt Feelings Matter, your aggression is making me uncomfortable in what is explicitly feminist space.

I mean, you can't have your cake and eat it too.

For generations 'girl' has been the default insult men use on other men.
Cry like a girl.
Throw like a girl.
But denigrating girls is all about trans. Cool story, bro.

See, I don't have an issue with gay men calling each other 'girls'. Because they're gay men and I don't perceive them as a threat. They don't want to have sex with me and they don't want access to my safe spaces.

Similarly, older 'trannies' (as they used to be called). Again, gay men (usually), happy to use their own male facilities, not threatening me, wanting to have sex with me or seeking access to my safe spaces.

The new TRA's on the other hand are extremely threatening. There have been MANY reports that they are coercing lesbians into having sex with them. They are threatening people who disagree with them with sexual violence and they are demanding access to my safe spaces.

No. Just fucking NO.

Touched a nerve there daddy? You have to resort to more generalisations to stick the boot in. I was at Grenfell earlier this year when all your "identity" teenage poseotroopers let off smoke bombs

HeistSociety
Oh god you're not an accountant too, are you?

No.

I'm sorry for you that your idea of fun is bitching at women.

For generations 'girl' has been the default insult men use on other men
Cry like a girl Throw like a girl

Can agree with that, "you throw like a girl or cry like a girl" pretty bloody you what?! How am I supposed to throw as a woman

But denigrating girls is all about trans

Didn't say that.
Just what has the fact someone has a few gay friends who thinks effeminate gay men are girls got to do with anything?
If your gay friends think effeminate men are girls, how does that tell you everything you have to know about transgender?
Was a genuine question.

FantaOra
It was that or politely suggest you actually read more than one line of what I posted and ask how did you even see that one line as a 'justification'? I guess I never knew #beancounterisaslur

Presumably, keeping to the biological distinction between men and women, would be an equally "cost effective solution" as saying that TWAW?

Anyway, in these days when we worry so much about these things, people may be willing to pay for some extra space.

Can you imagine turning up on Lipstick Alley and announcing ‘white woman here’ then talking about yourself?

You are on a feminist chat board spluttering out this....

Why do all women hate poor people?

You have well and truly lost the plot.

Good bye.

I can't ever imagine turning up in trans spaces to c*splain anything. I'm not that rude, nor that self-centred.

Even starred out, aren't supposed to use the c word on here as it's not liked.
I don't like it either so why use it

Just translating to TRA language; feel free to report, am in no way wedded to it.

I took another look at the talk guidelines and cannot find where intentional inflammatory gloating over 65K women losing their discussion platform is characterized as civil, constructive, or simply an opposing view.

I wonder how many here could live with post-operation trans sharing the space?

Doesn't matter if there are some who can live with it. As long as there are some who can't, and we know that there are, then you've just made a woman's space inaccessible to some women. That is not an acceptable outcome.

Why do all women hate poor people?

This has to be one of the silliest things I’ve ever read on here. And there’s some stiff competition.

Thank you OP. There will be lots of people reading this, esp like you having found their way over from Reddit, who may never have really understood why women need protected spaces.

You've demonstrated why so well.

@TehBewilderness

I took another look at the talk guidelines and cannot find where intentional inflammatory gloating over 65K women losing their discussion platform is characterized as civil, constructive, or simply an opposing view.

Maybe it is now "in the spirit" ?

Maybe it is now "in the spirit" ?

Maybe MNHQ felt inclined to give some rope and see what developed - sometimes it's knots, sometimes is the metaphorical finish to that idiom.

Imagine if a woman said something along the lines of "Why do men hate insert word here people?

Hmmmm. How many NAMALT posts would pop up, with accompanying "be nice" etc comments? Or it was taken out of context?