Lloyd Russell Moyle back-pedals furiously

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twitter.com/lloyd_rm

But this wasn't just an ill thought out spur of the moment tweet.

This was an article in a magazine.

He wrote:

"Recently, of course, we saw people like JK Rowling using her own sexual assault as justification for discriminating against a group of people who were not responsible for it."

He has asked for that quote to be removed, but the article was posted several days ago. Apparently now that people are asking for his removal from the front bench, he sees his error.

Already a thread on this:

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3951756-Get-a-load-of-this

He has asked for that quote to be removed, but the article was posted several days ago. Apparently now that people are asking for his removal from the front bench, he sees his error

I hope the article and his quote remain. And don't get vaporized down the Memory hole. It's important to see who people really are.

I'd like it if someone could just point out precisely what it is that JKR has said, which is discriminatory. I've yet to hear anyone actually tell me what she said which is factually incorrect.

People like LRM are the reason why Labour are unelectable. This won't change until they step out of their echo chamber and get rid of people like him, Lisa Nandy, Naz Shah and anyone else who is prepared to sacrifice the best interests of women and children.

It's not going well for him is it. I'm trying to muster up some sympathy but I can't be bothered.

I like this remark on twitter:

You know the rules. Full cancellation and unpersoning. Pack your stuff.

Live by the sword, die by the sword, Lloyd, you reprehensible piece of shit.

You know the rules. Full cancellation and unpersoning. Pack your stuff

It's interesting, isn't it? Those issuing the denunciation orders imagine it doesn't apply to them. If they had any historical knowledge, it might give them pause....

Like Saturn, the Revolution devours its children

@OliveKitteridgeAgain

I like this remark on twitter:

You know the rules. Full cancellation and unpersoning. Pack your stuff.

Live by the sword, die by the sword, Lloyd, you reprehensible piece of shit.

I actually don't want the reprehensible, misogynist little cockwomble to lose his job, for two reasons:

1. Moral high ground purposes - no point complaining about cancel culture if you participate in it.
2. Far more fun (and far more galling to him, I suspect) to watch him backtrack and grovel rather than be a martyr for the cause.

That's a brilliant tweet though

Moral high ground purposes - no point complaining about cancel culture if you participate in it

This is a nice sentiment but I believe the wokies will never stop if they face no consequences themselves.

@OliveKitteridgeAgain

I like this remark on twitter:

You know the rules. Full cancellation and unpersoning. Pack your stuff.

Live by the sword, die by the sword, Lloyd, you reprehensible piece of shit.

This

And i do completely and utterly agree with teawamutu, I can’t complain about this ‘cancellation culture’ and then agree it should happen to this chump

BUT

I have many faults, i am only human and i will work on my lust for revenge and my childishness...hopefully i will emerge from this a better person 😔

(Everything after the word faults is a lie, I’m only saying it so hopefully i can get away with saying ‘ner nicky ner ner ...serves you right’)

Not good enough. It wasn’t an off the cuff remark, something overheard when he was bitching to a friend, or something he said when tipsy. It was though our, drafted and written. He had time (was he also paid) to craft this and it’s what he thinks.

Maybe he has realised that women aren’t quite the easy target he assumed they were.

Good riddance. I am fed up of people thinking they can say whatever they like about women and get no backlash.

I hope that this is because Keir has had a word with him and told him to issue a full apology or go. Because that would be a good sign for the labour party.

I hope he means it. He probably doesn’t - preserving his own backside more likely.

Rufus, NGL if he's sacked I will laugh my arse off.

I suspect having to grovel and wind his neck in will grate on him far more, though.

@teawamutu

Rufus, NGL if he's sacked I will laugh my arse off.

I suspect having to grovel and wind his neck in will grate on him far more, though.

Oh it will

So maybe grovel and wind his Neck in for a few months AND THEN SACK HIM...best of both words 😀

(Need to work more on faults 🥺 will have coffee and think about what Ive done)

There really does need to be a huge shot fired across the bow of the misogynists.

I see what everyone means about not sacking LRM. However, he's nit just some employee whose actions have minimal repercussions outside his desk space. He's an MP, there to serve his constituents and country. How can he serve women when he has publically accused a woman of exploiting her abuse in an essay she wrote about defending her own rights? How can any woman go to see him when he has such open contempt for us? He's told us he can't do his job and so he has to go.

I think we need to see those who think it is fine to insult women and attack anyone who doesn’t follow the current gender ideology pulled up and made accountable.

Why can’t women be the ‘sacred cow’ for once?

I actually don't want the reprehensible, misogynist little cockwomble to lose his job, for two reasons:

He absolutely must lose his job. Not because of ‘cancel culture’ - if he stacked shelves at Tesco then I wouldn’t expect it - but because he is in the shadow cabinet. He is meant to be holding the government to account, showing a ‘better path’ to take to that the government propose. If Labour keep him then they are effectively saying ‘if we were in government this is what it would look like, this is the level of respect we would show abused women’.

I don't believe this is cancel culture.

Cancel culture is de-platforming people who you don't agree with, because you are too much of a coward/too inadequate to try to win over hearts and minds with reasoned argument. And generally, this is because those wishing to de-platform do not have a political, moral or philosophical stance that stands up to basic scrutiny, common sense or common experience. The TWAW mantra is the epitome. It is so the opposite of common sense, basic biology and human experience for the last 200,000 years, that the only way to prop it up is to immediately back foot anyone challenging it as a bigot/phobe/Nazi/trans-killer, and shut them down from speaking the truth.

Lloyd Russell-Moyle is a paid for by the tax payer, elected by the public, MP. He is not a private citizen with opinions I might disagree with, but feel he's entitled to have them. He's on the public payroll and using that platform to spread a filthy lie about an abused woman. Half of his constituents will be women and girls. How could they trust him to have their backs were they to experience a sexual assault? What about legislation going through Parliament to try to protect sexual assault victims? How can the public have confidence that he views women who have talked about their assaults, in order to bring about changes to the law, as anything other than exploiters. He has zero idea of how women feel when they are assaulted, the shame, fear, anger, guilt. The PTSD. He has made that plain in the article, and he is therefore not fit to represent the 50% of his constituents and the women who pay his wages in Parliament.

He is of course free to spew his bile all over the media as a private citizen. However, I imagine that without the title of MP, and the little power trip that bestows, he is just another sad little man that nobody is really interested in.

I agree. Other people have gone for saying less. He needs to go, if Labour are claiming to give a single shit about women.

Be interesting to see what KS does now. What message is he going to send to 51% of the country's population?

I think we need to see those who think it is fine to insult women and attack anyone who doesn’t follow the current gender ideology pulled up and made accountable.

Yes. That clear message needs to be sent at this stage.

We won’t though will we? If he said that about anyone else it would have been curtains for him - but attack a woman and it’s open season.

Olive that's a really powerful point. And I would personally like him to go.

So I suppose it comes down to perception of whether it's CC/whether the distinction can be drawn credibly enough. I'm thinking of what happened to baroness Nicholson (and noticeably didn't to the men involved in Booker).

@MrsHuntGeneNotJeremyObviously

Be interesting to see what KS does now. What message is he going to send to 51% of the country's population?

Absolutely