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Allison Bailey to sue Stonewall

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OhHolyJesus · 27/06/2020 08:20

There is a crowdfunder so I won't share the link but here a part of the text. It's long but brilliant and this isn't the half of it. Off to find my wallet...

The new trans activism: all scrutiny and critical voices labelled ‘transphobic’

In early 2018, when I first heard that plans were underway to make the lives of trans people easier, my reaction was that this was a good thing and I did not give it a second thought. I kept coming across the term ‘TERF’ but ignored it. I thought that bigots were simply being called out.

Then one day I clicked on a link: terfisaslur.com where someone had collated the online abuse that was being directed at women who I realised had entirely valid concerns and questions about the wisdom of replacing sex with gender.
I learnt that the new trans activism wants to smash the distinctions between men and women; replacing sex with notions of gender identity; making sexual difference a matter of self identification; and demands that any and every man that wishes to identify as a woman must be allowed to do so.
I learnt that the new trans activism is focusing, inexplicably, on young children and declaring them ‘trans’; treating puberty as a disease to be blocked with powerful drugs; delivering our young people into the arms of a multi-million pound industry of big pharmaceutical companies and plastic surgeons.
I saw that the same males who would have society regard them as women, were quick to brandish knives, axes, baseball bats and nooses, as they threatened with rape women who questioned the wisdom of replacing sex with gender —TERFs.
I realised that the new trans activism operated a crude but effective system of punishment and reward: agree with every demand of the trans lobby and be safe; object and face vilification, abuse, boycott, character assassination and cancellation.
I was horrified (and terrified).
I wanted to look away, to pretend that I had not seen it; that it did not reveal the worst woman-hating, lesbian hating, misogyny that I have ever come across in my lifetime.
I did not look away and I urge others not to either. Thanks to brave women who have come before me, such as the late, great, Magdalen Berns, whose courage and no nonsense approach to calling out the new trans activism as the men’s rights movement it so clearly is, gave me courage.
I realised that I did not have to accept that any man can claim to be legally a woman, without having to undergo any hormone or surgical intervention, psychological evaluation or risk assessment.
I realised that it was okay and necessary to say that it is reckless and naive to think that men will only identify as women if they are stunning and brave and harmless: that the wicked, abusive, predatory, unwell and downright cantankerous will, by some miracle, refuse to take advantage of free and easy access to women, to their politics, safe spaces, sports, legal protections and identities.
I was shocked to discover that significant numbers of male sex offenders are permitted to identify as women and nothing is being done to stop them. In England and Wales, some 40 per cent or more of trans identified males in the prison population are men with convictions for sex offences, including rape and possession of the most serious indecent images of children. I read a steady stream of news reports from around the world of males who identify as women committing serious sex offences.
It is repugnant to me and wholly unacceptable, and frankly unbelievable, that the new trans activism demands that sex crimes committed by males who identify as women are recorded as having been committed by women; and that these males can demand to be referred to by female pronouns.
I discovered that women incarcerated in prison are left vulnerable to serious sexual assault and mental anguish, as males, including sex offenders, are locked up with them. The new trans activism demands that a man’s desire to identify as a woman is more important than the right of imprisoned women to safety and dignity. These women have no way to escape, no choice, they are locked up. I do not see how this is anything other than state facilitated abuse and mental torture.
Where there should have been discussion, investigation and inquiry, there has been the silencing of concerned and critical voices; not voices from the far right, but from women like me, who are of and from the progressive left.
Mantras have been chanted because the new trans activism is a movement that cannot bear scrutiny: TRANS WOMEN ARE WOMEN; TRANS RIGHTS ARE HUMAN RIGHTS; TRANS PEOPLE ARE WHO THEY SAY THEY ARE; PROTECT OUR TRANS SIBLINGS, and so on, do nothing to engage with and address the serious concerns that exist about replacing sex with gender.
The new trans activists are joined by politicians, journalists, lawyers, writers, entire organisations, and assorted celebrities, in the chanting of these mantras to shut down debate, while others who are appalled at what they see happening are too afraid to speak out. It is cult like behaviour, it is Orwellian, and it has disgraced and shamed a generation.
Labelling all critical voices ‘transphobic’ is a cynical political ploy of the new trans activism. It must be resisted.

Surviving child sexual abuse: understanding that women and girls are oppressed because of their sex and not their gender identity
The man who sexually abused me as a 9 year old little girl; the man who targeted my single-parent mother; the man who told me that I could trust him whilst he slipped drugs into my orange squash to render me helpless as he sexually assaulted me, was tried and convicted of multiple sexual assaults against me in 2015, and sentenced to 10 years imprisonment. He was released from prison last month (May 2020) to serve out the rest of his sentence on licence.

I make this disclosure now because I feel compelled to stand in solidarity with other women with similar experiences of male physical and sexual violence. It is not weaponising trauma to say so, any more than recounting racist abuse is.

We must not allow men or women to bury, minimise and ignore the visceral reality of male violence. We must not allow the new trans activism to force survivors back into the closet; this would be an abuser’s charter.

It should be a cause of great alarm that the new trans activism takes such a regressive and shaming attitude to disclosures of abuse. This culture of denial and belittling has been the bedrock and the hallmark of every abuse scandal. It is a red flag that signals a safeguarding catastrophe in the making.
It is women like me whose lives have been torn apart and seriously blighted by wanton acts of male violence that know that men are often not who they say they are or claim to be.
I know that conflating sex with notions of gender identity will leave women with no legally enforceable boundaries against any man.

I know that if the new trans activism is not brought to heel, women will disappear as a political class.

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NotAssigned · 27/06/2020 14:08

I can see it but it's at zero and says it is launching in 12 months. Let's hope it's just gremlins and that it is fixed soon.

PronounssheRa · 27/06/2020 14:08

Same problem.

My guess is it's been reported, women can't have access to justice in this progreesive new world

teawamutu · 27/06/2020 14:08

Standard TRA playbook, happened before, hasn't it?

Hope it's reinstated.

AngeloMysterioso · 27/06/2020 14:09

Maybe there were so many simultaneous donations that the site crashed... naively optimistic

Polestar50 · 27/06/2020 14:10

Would it help if supporters wrote to Crowdfunder?

Melroses · 27/06/2020 14:11

It was inevitable - this always happens at some stage.

SwimmingCait · 27/06/2020 14:12

Gah! Saw it earlier and thought will donate in a bit. And now I have got my bank card, it has gone! If Stonewall are in the right, surely they have nothing to fear from the sunlight offered by a court case?

CaveMum · 27/06/2020 14:14

There will have been a mass reporting of the fundraiser. It’s a classic TRA tactic, it will be back up once they see there is nothing questionable behind it.

CourtneyLurve · 27/06/2020 14:16

WTAF??

littlbrowndog · 27/06/2020 14:17

Here

Allison Bailey to sue Stonewall
OhHolyJesus · 27/06/2020 14:21

What happens when you've already donated does it get refunded? Surely that money goes to her cause then she can start another? They can't just close it and keep the cash!!

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HarmonicAnalysis · 27/06/2020 14:22

This is so shocking. Can Allison still access the money raised? I had donated and still want her to be able to use it even if the platform is too cowardly to host the fundraiser.

twoHopes · 27/06/2020 14:22

I fucking knew this would happen. The bastards!

emilybrontescorsett · 27/06/2020 14:22

Just coming on to say what a fantastic woman.

teawamutu · 27/06/2020 14:23

If I get refunded I'm going to double it and find another way to get it to her. This is a fucking JOKE.

media, please take notice of this!

Anoualler · 27/06/2020 14:24

Crowd-as-long-as-it’s-the-right-one-Justice.

Crowd Justice = Mob rule.

Anoualler · 27/06/2020 14:25

I too am just going to double my donation.

hellandhairnets · 27/06/2020 14:26

These fascists make me feel sick. She raised nearly 50k in a matter of hours, all from small donations. And yes, I hope ALL the press are watching and will be writing about it. This needs to be blown out of the water.

PronounssheRa · 27/06/2020 14:27

If its not reopened i will find another way to donate and will double my donation. No fuck it, I'm going to quadruple it.

JemimaShore · 27/06/2020 14:27

Do these people who reported her crowdfunder seriously think they're on the right side here?

Denying a black lesbian access to justice - not a good look.

I'll donate double to her when it goes back up/she finds another way.

Don't let the bastards grind you down, Allison Thanks

PurpleCrowbarWhereIsLangCleg · 27/06/2020 14:28

Right, well, doubling my donation the minute it's back up, then.

I think they just panic over the combo of a) it went up like a fucking ROCKET & b) a mass pile on of reports.

Datun · 27/06/2020 14:29

This disgusting, illegal, misogynistic behaviour just demonstrates that transactivism is in its death throes.

It will either be back up, or Allison Bailey will find a way.

Either way, this is all just grist to the sunlight mill.

teawamutu · 27/06/2020 14:29

Can't rule out Stonewall having been in touch, either.

CaveMum · 27/06/2020 14:29

The latest

Allison Bailey to sue Stonewall
Datun · 27/06/2020 14:30

Do these people who reported her crowdfunder seriously think they're on the right side here?

No. They don't care. They just want to bully women.

Fortunately, the worst their behaviour gets, the easier people will be able to identify the right side of history.

They continually push fence sitters over the edge.