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Allison Bailey to sue Stonewall

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OhHolyJesus · 27/06/2020 08:20

There is a crowdfunder so I won't share the link but here a part of the text. It's long but brilliant and this isn't the half of it. Off to find my wallet...

The new trans activism: all scrutiny and critical voices labelled ‘transphobic’

In early 2018, when I first heard that plans were underway to make the lives of trans people easier, my reaction was that this was a good thing and I did not give it a second thought. I kept coming across the term ‘TERF’ but ignored it. I thought that bigots were simply being called out.

Then one day I clicked on a link: terfisaslur.com where someone had collated the online abuse that was being directed at women who I realised had entirely valid concerns and questions about the wisdom of replacing sex with gender.
I learnt that the new trans activism wants to smash the distinctions between men and women; replacing sex with notions of gender identity; making sexual difference a matter of self identification; and demands that any and every man that wishes to identify as a woman must be allowed to do so.
I learnt that the new trans activism is focusing, inexplicably, on young children and declaring them ‘trans’; treating puberty as a disease to be blocked with powerful drugs; delivering our young people into the arms of a multi-million pound industry of big pharmaceutical companies and plastic surgeons.
I saw that the same males who would have society regard them as women, were quick to brandish knives, axes, baseball bats and nooses, as they threatened with rape women who questioned the wisdom of replacing sex with gender —TERFs.
I realised that the new trans activism operated a crude but effective system of punishment and reward: agree with every demand of the trans lobby and be safe; object and face vilification, abuse, boycott, character assassination and cancellation.
I was horrified (and terrified).
I wanted to look away, to pretend that I had not seen it; that it did not reveal the worst woman-hating, lesbian hating, misogyny that I have ever come across in my lifetime.
I did not look away and I urge others not to either. Thanks to brave women who have come before me, such as the late, great, Magdalen Berns, whose courage and no nonsense approach to calling out the new trans activism as the men’s rights movement it so clearly is, gave me courage.
I realised that I did not have to accept that any man can claim to be legally a woman, without having to undergo any hormone or surgical intervention, psychological evaluation or risk assessment.
I realised that it was okay and necessary to say that it is reckless and naive to think that men will only identify as women if they are stunning and brave and harmless: that the wicked, abusive, predatory, unwell and downright cantankerous will, by some miracle, refuse to take advantage of free and easy access to women, to their politics, safe spaces, sports, legal protections and identities.
I was shocked to discover that significant numbers of male sex offenders are permitted to identify as women and nothing is being done to stop them. In England and Wales, some 40 per cent or more of trans identified males in the prison population are men with convictions for sex offences, including rape and possession of the most serious indecent images of children. I read a steady stream of news reports from around the world of males who identify as women committing serious sex offences.
It is repugnant to me and wholly unacceptable, and frankly unbelievable, that the new trans activism demands that sex crimes committed by males who identify as women are recorded as having been committed by women; and that these males can demand to be referred to by female pronouns.
I discovered that women incarcerated in prison are left vulnerable to serious sexual assault and mental anguish, as males, including sex offenders, are locked up with them. The new trans activism demands that a man’s desire to identify as a woman is more important than the right of imprisoned women to safety and dignity. These women have no way to escape, no choice, they are locked up. I do not see how this is anything other than state facilitated abuse and mental torture.
Where there should have been discussion, investigation and inquiry, there has been the silencing of concerned and critical voices; not voices from the far right, but from women like me, who are of and from the progressive left.
Mantras have been chanted because the new trans activism is a movement that cannot bear scrutiny: TRANS WOMEN ARE WOMEN; TRANS RIGHTS ARE HUMAN RIGHTS; TRANS PEOPLE ARE WHO THEY SAY THEY ARE; PROTECT OUR TRANS SIBLINGS, and so on, do nothing to engage with and address the serious concerns that exist about replacing sex with gender.
The new trans activists are joined by politicians, journalists, lawyers, writers, entire organisations, and assorted celebrities, in the chanting of these mantras to shut down debate, while others who are appalled at what they see happening are too afraid to speak out. It is cult like behaviour, it is Orwellian, and it has disgraced and shamed a generation.
Labelling all critical voices ‘transphobic’ is a cynical political ploy of the new trans activism. It must be resisted.

Surviving child sexual abuse: understanding that women and girls are oppressed because of their sex and not their gender identity
The man who sexually abused me as a 9 year old little girl; the man who targeted my single-parent mother; the man who told me that I could trust him whilst he slipped drugs into my orange squash to render me helpless as he sexually assaulted me, was tried and convicted of multiple sexual assaults against me in 2015, and sentenced to 10 years imprisonment. He was released from prison last month (May 2020) to serve out the rest of his sentence on licence.

I make this disclosure now because I feel compelled to stand in solidarity with other women with similar experiences of male physical and sexual violence. It is not weaponising trauma to say so, any more than recounting racist abuse is.

We must not allow men or women to bury, minimise and ignore the visceral reality of male violence. We must not allow the new trans activism to force survivors back into the closet; this would be an abuser’s charter.

It should be a cause of great alarm that the new trans activism takes such a regressive and shaming attitude to disclosures of abuse. This culture of denial and belittling has been the bedrock and the hallmark of every abuse scandal. It is a red flag that signals a safeguarding catastrophe in the making.
It is women like me whose lives have been torn apart and seriously blighted by wanton acts of male violence that know that men are often not who they say they are or claim to be.
I know that conflating sex with notions of gender identity will leave women with no legally enforceable boundaries against any man.

I know that if the new trans activism is not brought to heel, women will disappear as a political class.

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eggsandwaffles · 28/06/2020 14:05

Nailed it @CharlieParley, thank you.

howonearthdidwegethere · 28/06/2020 14:35

I hope Allison might consider suing CrowdJustice (once the funds have been transferred to her lawyers). There may be grounds for a claim of discriminatory behaviour on the grounds of her sex, sexual orientation and/or race, surely?

If you are reading, Allison: set up a crowdfunder on Crowdfunder and I'll donate to that too.

Bluemoooon · 28/06/2020 14:35

Donated to Katie Alcock (girlguiding)

twoHopes · 28/06/2020 14:44

Bloody hell I didn't realise that Crowdjustice have purposely shut down her page for further donations when this is not something they've ever done before. How the hell do they think they'll justify all this?! It's one thing to edit the content, it's quite another to actively block donations.

I really, really hope these authoritarian woke bullies have finally met their match in Allison Bailey. We have had enough.

crumpet · 28/06/2020 14:49

The Crowdfunder site explicitly states that if a target is exceeded it can continue. They have closed the fundraiser in spite of this, with no good reason.

As soon as it opens I’ll be donating again (and will use the £5 refund they have promised, to add to the crowdfunder itself, as I won’t give it to CrowdJustice)

crumpet · 28/06/2020 14:52

Here’s the extract

Allison Bailey to sue Stonewall
Shedbuilder · 28/06/2020 14:52

They'll not just have met their match in Allison, they'll have met their match in the thousands of women behind her.

KatieAlcock · 28/06/2020 14:53

I'm really excited to see how many people have been taking an interest in my case these past few days too! It's a shame it's taken this cowardly action to bring it to attention.
Lockdown has been a time for my son to do some of his Scouting badges but my daughter, who should have been in Rainbows, hasn't had this. I've been watching friends' daughters do badges and have Zoom meetings and at-home sleepovers.

Beamur · 28/06/2020 15:19

Katie
Will the Government not reviewing the GRA affect your case?

ChurchOfWokeApostate · 28/06/2020 15:24

What a weird way to phrase it as well...
‘Even with limited content, Ms Bailey’s case page has hit its stretch target’

They’re acknowledging that they’ve purposely reduced the information surrounding the case

KatieAlcock · 28/06/2020 15:26

It may do! It's something I need to discuss with my solicitor. But at one level the essence of my case is that they have excluded me and others because of my, and their, beliefs (you have to believe in an innate gender identity to be a leader) and excluded women from leadership because of their gender reassignment status (women transitioning to be transmen can't be leaders).
But the change in GRA reform plans may make a difference too.

AliceToo · 28/06/2020 15:28

May I respectfully ask if sexual abuse at the hands of men is the reason for or excuse for transphobia?

Dozer · 28/06/2020 15:31

What ‘transphobia’ are you referring to?

WineGummyBear · 28/06/2020 15:34

On the positive side.

Between JKR's essay and Allison's statement in the Filia site. Many of my female friends and relatives have moved swiftly from a position of 'shouldn't we all just be kind' to a position of 'there is something very worrying going on here'.

So even though CJ have undermined their own credentials and made things difficult many of us have doubled our donations and spread the word. I think there's been some real progress this weekend.

Shedbuilder · 28/06/2020 15:49

Yes, it's the Streisand effect. The more the TRAs make a fuss, the more attention they create and the more people walk away concerned that something sinister is very clearly going on.

So in a reverse ferret may I say thank you, CrowdJustice, for shining ever more light on the situation. And I hope Allison sues you to hell and back.

twoHopes · 28/06/2020 15:51

So in a reverse ferret may I say thank you, CrowdJustice, for shining ever more light on the situation. And I hope Allison sues you to hell and back.

Cheers to that Wine

howonearthdidwegethere · 28/06/2020 16:15

@AliceToo

Please could you point us towards evidence of 'transphobia'.

What I read in Allison's crowdfunder pitch was that her experience of CSA has led her to appreciate the importance of single sex spaces and services.

Unless you are of the view that single sex spaces and services are inherently 'transphobic'.

Sexnotgender · 28/06/2020 16:20

@AliceToo

May I respectfully ask if sexual abuse at the hands of men is the reason for or excuse for transphobia?
Please point out the transphobia?
StandUpStraight · 28/06/2020 16:29

I wonder if Alice is Disgusted of Manchester, the lonely TRA in the Times comments, who recently theorised that JK Rowling was a misandrist transphobe because of her history of abuse. That comment was deleted.

OliveKitteridgeAgain · 28/06/2020 16:39

@ChurchOfWokeApostate

What a weird way to phrase it as well... ‘Even with limited content, Ms Bailey’s case page has hit its stretch target’

They’re acknowledging that they’ve purposely reduced the information surrounding the case

I think this is arse covering. They are saying that their cutting down Alison's words, and turning her crowdfunded off for a few hours, has not had any effect on her fundraising effort - i.e., even if they have done something wrong, it has resulted in no damage. If she had failed to reach her target, they would have been open to a claim potentially.
SuperJan · 28/06/2020 16:48

'LGB Alliance' is just a hate group.

StandUpStraight · 28/06/2020 16:50

Riiiigghhhht.

EdgeOfACoin · 28/06/2020 16:51

Oh dear.

DuDuDuLangaLangaBingBong · 28/06/2020 16:54

@SuperJan

'LGB Alliance' is just a hate group.
Sure, Jan.
Sexnotgender · 28/06/2020 16:55

@SuperJan

'LGB Alliance' is just a hate group.
On what basis?