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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Allison Bailey to sue Stonewall

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OhHolyJesus · 27/06/2020 08:20

There is a crowdfunder so I won't share the link but here a part of the text. It's long but brilliant and this isn't the half of it. Off to find my wallet...

The new trans activism: all scrutiny and critical voices labelled ‘transphobic’

In early 2018, when I first heard that plans were underway to make the lives of trans people easier, my reaction was that this was a good thing and I did not give it a second thought. I kept coming across the term ‘TERF’ but ignored it. I thought that bigots were simply being called out.

Then one day I clicked on a link: terfisaslur.com where someone had collated the online abuse that was being directed at women who I realised had entirely valid concerns and questions about the wisdom of replacing sex with gender.
I learnt that the new trans activism wants to smash the distinctions between men and women; replacing sex with notions of gender identity; making sexual difference a matter of self identification; and demands that any and every man that wishes to identify as a woman must be allowed to do so.
I learnt that the new trans activism is focusing, inexplicably, on young children and declaring them ‘trans’; treating puberty as a disease to be blocked with powerful drugs; delivering our young people into the arms of a multi-million pound industry of big pharmaceutical companies and plastic surgeons.
I saw that the same males who would have society regard them as women, were quick to brandish knives, axes, baseball bats and nooses, as they threatened with rape women who questioned the wisdom of replacing sex with gender —TERFs.
I realised that the new trans activism operated a crude but effective system of punishment and reward: agree with every demand of the trans lobby and be safe; object and face vilification, abuse, boycott, character assassination and cancellation.
I was horrified (and terrified).
I wanted to look away, to pretend that I had not seen it; that it did not reveal the worst woman-hating, lesbian hating, misogyny that I have ever come across in my lifetime.
I did not look away and I urge others not to either. Thanks to brave women who have come before me, such as the late, great, Magdalen Berns, whose courage and no nonsense approach to calling out the new trans activism as the men’s rights movement it so clearly is, gave me courage.
I realised that I did not have to accept that any man can claim to be legally a woman, without having to undergo any hormone or surgical intervention, psychological evaluation or risk assessment.
I realised that it was okay and necessary to say that it is reckless and naive to think that men will only identify as women if they are stunning and brave and harmless: that the wicked, abusive, predatory, unwell and downright cantankerous will, by some miracle, refuse to take advantage of free and easy access to women, to their politics, safe spaces, sports, legal protections and identities.
I was shocked to discover that significant numbers of male sex offenders are permitted to identify as women and nothing is being done to stop them. In England and Wales, some 40 per cent or more of trans identified males in the prison population are men with convictions for sex offences, including rape and possession of the most serious indecent images of children. I read a steady stream of news reports from around the world of males who identify as women committing serious sex offences.
It is repugnant to me and wholly unacceptable, and frankly unbelievable, that the new trans activism demands that sex crimes committed by males who identify as women are recorded as having been committed by women; and that these males can demand to be referred to by female pronouns.
I discovered that women incarcerated in prison are left vulnerable to serious sexual assault and mental anguish, as males, including sex offenders, are locked up with them. The new trans activism demands that a man’s desire to identify as a woman is more important than the right of imprisoned women to safety and dignity. These women have no way to escape, no choice, they are locked up. I do not see how this is anything other than state facilitated abuse and mental torture.
Where there should have been discussion, investigation and inquiry, there has been the silencing of concerned and critical voices; not voices from the far right, but from women like me, who are of and from the progressive left.
Mantras have been chanted because the new trans activism is a movement that cannot bear scrutiny: TRANS WOMEN ARE WOMEN; TRANS RIGHTS ARE HUMAN RIGHTS; TRANS PEOPLE ARE WHO THEY SAY THEY ARE; PROTECT OUR TRANS SIBLINGS, and so on, do nothing to engage with and address the serious concerns that exist about replacing sex with gender.
The new trans activists are joined by politicians, journalists, lawyers, writers, entire organisations, and assorted celebrities, in the chanting of these mantras to shut down debate, while others who are appalled at what they see happening are too afraid to speak out. It is cult like behaviour, it is Orwellian, and it has disgraced and shamed a generation.
Labelling all critical voices ‘transphobic’ is a cynical political ploy of the new trans activism. It must be resisted.

Surviving child sexual abuse: understanding that women and girls are oppressed because of their sex and not their gender identity
The man who sexually abused me as a 9 year old little girl; the man who targeted my single-parent mother; the man who told me that I could trust him whilst he slipped drugs into my orange squash to render me helpless as he sexually assaulted me, was tried and convicted of multiple sexual assaults against me in 2015, and sentenced to 10 years imprisonment. He was released from prison last month (May 2020) to serve out the rest of his sentence on licence.

I make this disclosure now because I feel compelled to stand in solidarity with other women with similar experiences of male physical and sexual violence. It is not weaponising trauma to say so, any more than recounting racist abuse is.

We must not allow men or women to bury, minimise and ignore the visceral reality of male violence. We must not allow the new trans activism to force survivors back into the closet; this would be an abuser’s charter.

It should be a cause of great alarm that the new trans activism takes such a regressive and shaming attitude to disclosures of abuse. This culture of denial and belittling has been the bedrock and the hallmark of every abuse scandal. It is a red flag that signals a safeguarding catastrophe in the making.
It is women like me whose lives have been torn apart and seriously blighted by wanton acts of male violence that know that men are often not who they say they are or claim to be.
I know that conflating sex with notions of gender identity will leave women with no legally enforceable boundaries against any man.

I know that if the new trans activism is not brought to heel, women will disappear as a political class.

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Mumfun · 28/06/2020 09:49

@ThePurported

CrowdJustice has lost the plot (I find it very hard to believe that they didn't review the case before publishing) but whatever, great that it's back up and Allison knows that lots of people are behind her Flowers
They do agree wording etc with fundraisers before it is posted. They have a whole team to do so. They have been pressurised in some way afterwards
OhHolyJesus · 28/06/2020 09:56

Pressured is right and Jolyon gets retweeted a lot huh? Hmmm

I'm pleased she hit her stretch target but hope it gets stretched again, I think LGB A did that, we should all keep a close eye on this and the refunds of fees taken by CJ back our accounts.

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charlestonchaplin · 28/06/2020 10:06

You can’t even find the crowdfunder by searching for ‘Allison Bailey’. Nothing comes up. They are trying all sorts of ways to mute the message.

NoSquirrels · 28/06/2020 10:12

They wouldn’t be able to run the site without having an oversight of material they publish. It is asking everyone to suspend their disbelief to a ludicrous degree to consider whoever read Allison Bailey’s wording didn’t think uh-oh, better pass this one by my boss just in case. They’ll know all
about the issues with these appeals for crowdfunding. It is actually rather sinister that it’s been suspended/truncated/wording replaced.

TheRattleBag · 28/06/2020 10:22

Update from CrowdJustice Team, 9:06am, 28 June: That was fast! Even with limited content, Ms Bailey’s case page has hit its stretch target and is now closed for further donations.

Is it normal to close a crowd funder as soon as that target is reached? I'm sure I've seen them go way over before...

EmpressLangClegSpartacus · 28/06/2020 10:25

It’s annoying, I just went in to double my donation & got that message. Looking forward to stretching further.

WhatAWonderfulDay · 28/06/2020 10:27

They continue and just have another stretch target.
Looking at Katie's and Maya's, it seems the dates are rolling too.

This is discrimination.

Binterested · 28/06/2020 10:28

I was going to donate. Will donate to the girl guiding one instead which apparently needs some help.

Binterested · 28/06/2020 10:43

I've just dug for Katie Alcock's girlguiding one instead - please have a look if you can do some extra digging.

If Allison continues to fundraise via another route I will donate there as well.

Dances · 28/06/2020 10:49

Have they really stopped it? Because it has reached target? Would an extended target be added normally.?

Thinkingabout1t · 28/06/2020 10:55

Thanks for posting this, OhHoly. Well worth a donation. I hope she wins, but either way it’s dragging these issues out into the sunlight.

EmpressLangClegSpartacus · 28/06/2020 10:55

Have they really stopped it? Because it has reached target? Would an extended target be added normally?

Allison’s just tweeted to say she’s going to ask them to increase the target. twitter.com/bluskyeallison/status/1277175691004588032?s=21

ScrimpshawTheSecond · 28/06/2020 10:57

Well, gosh. You can have the page taken down and make it almost impossible to find, and preface it with a craven apology. But it's fairly clear that thousands and thousands of people in the UK are very aware, very angry, and very determined.

Bon courage, Allison. You have so much support.

Xanthangum · 28/06/2020 11:01

It isn't completely clear, but I think Allison is saying she wants Crowdjustice to increase the target because she is planning to sue Crowdjustice as well.

It gets better and better

Allison Bailey to sue Stonewall
AbsintheFriends · 28/06/2020 11:04

I came on to donate this morning and it's now closed?? Fucking fuck.

Seriously... they are pushing us too far now.

Mumfun · 28/06/2020 11:05

@Xanthangum

It isn't completely clear, but I think Allison is saying she wants Crowdjustice to increase the target because she is planning to sue Crowdjustice as well.

It gets better and better

Wow will be fascinating when we find out in due course what really happened.
charlestonchaplin · 28/06/2020 11:06

charlestonchaplin Sun 28-Jun-20 10:06:43
You can’t even find the crowdfunder by searching for ‘Allison Bailey’. Nothing comes up. They are trying all sorts of ways to mute the message.

Sorry, that’s not very clear. What I mean is that putting ‘Allison Bailey’ into the search function on the Crowdjustice website doesn’t bring up the case. I’m not sure they will agree to increase the target. They seem to be under great pressure to shut Allison Bailey down and are succumbing. And it looks really bad.

SulisMinerva · 28/06/2020 11:08

Good on her to challenge them! I also missed the chance to increase my donation - as soon as the target goes up again, more money will come Allison’s way.

OldeMagick · 28/06/2020 11:09

New statement from Allison

Allison Bailey to sue Stonewall
charlestonchaplin · 28/06/2020 11:09

It isn't completely clear, but I think Allison is saying she wants Crowdjustice to increase the target because she is planning to sue Crowdjustice as well.

I think that’s going too far with speculation. She may just have been referring to pressure being put on Crowdjustice by those she originally intended to sue, and be considering going after them for that in addition.

Sexnotgender · 28/06/2020 11:15

She’s asked us not to speculate, we do need to be careful. Fascinating stuff.

AbsintheFriends · 28/06/2020 11:28

OK, I'm standing by. But the longer it takes, the more cash my pissed-off meter is racking up.

(And for any lurking TRAs - I am not a billionaire far right Christian fundamentalist. I am a very angry middle aged woman with an established career, a paid-off mortgage and kids who have flown the nest. Do not underestimate us.)

ScrimpshawTheSecond · 28/06/2020 11:34

Star Allison.

highame · 28/06/2020 11:37

Well, I'm 71, not badly off but not able to do all on my bucket list, so donating to Allison's cause was fantastic.

Bluemoooon · 28/06/2020 11:46

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