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Twitter has suspended me

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Glinner · 27/06/2020 03:16

I'm really sorry to barge in on you Mumsnettters with my problems, but
I've been finally suspended from Twitter and I have a feeling they're either going to ban me or just take my verified tick. I've submitted an appeal with Twitter and the Better Business Bureau but I thought I'd post here too so people knew what was going on.

Recently, I keep being locked out of my account and forced to delete tweets to get back in. The latest tactic by trans rights activists is to run a search for any time I've used the word 'groomer', a phrase Twitter recently decided was Not Allowed.

This was not a violation of Twitter's ToS at the time I used the phrase, and I have been careful to avoid it since. I still use the word 'grooming' in various permutations because I believe that gender ideology is a form of societal grooming. It is a very real threat to the wellbeing of women and children and if our ability to name a threat is removed, it is even more difficult to fight that threat.

You may remember that Twitter similarly removed Canadian feminist Meghan Murphy. She lost her account when she said "that's him" about 'Jessica' Yaniv. Bear in mind that Yaniv was still going under 'Jonathan' at the time, and just as in my case, her crime against Twitter's Terms of Service was not actually an offence at the time she committed it. She probably never thought she could be banned from the public square for uttering the words "that's him". But that's Twitter.

Twitter has a high percentage of trans-identified employees and for some time has been silencing feminists and their allies who run afoul of its absurd 'misgendering' policies. The one good thing about my situation is that I'm in great company--Claire Graham, Meghan Murphy, Skylar Gwynn, Miranda Yardley, GNC Centric and many more, important feminist and critical voices who have been silenced for fighting a dangerous ideology that tells children it's possible to be born into the wrong body.

Anyway, that's what's happening. Please let people know it's entirely down to malicious reporting from the usual suspects and please keep watching my YouTube Channel and visiting my depressing blog. I'll also be available on Glindr if people from Twitter want to re-establish contact there. Hope it's ok to post these links to those destinations

YouTube:
Glindr: glindr.org/home
Women are Important: glinner.co.uk/

Thanks for all the support, and thanks for letting me fight alongside you.

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Lamahaha · 27/06/2020 18:58

@Serafinapekkalas

I asked you the following questions a few pages back and you have not yet answered. So I'm posting them again.

Do you think it is OK for a 13 year old girl (say, your daughter) to share a shower with a 50 year old, 6 foot self-identified transwoman who has an intact male physique, including penis?

You believe this transwoman is actually a woman -- what makes this so?

Would it be transphobia for this girl to feel uncomfortable in such a situation? If so, who should legally be obliged to leave the shower, she or the transwoman?

I have several more questions along those lines but I'd like these answered first. I would really like to hear what you think and try to understand your reasoning.

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TehBewilderness · 27/06/2020 18:59

@ThePurported

It started with "you deserved it" and ended with describing their porn fantasies.

They can't help themselves.
There are MPs who bleat TWAW and never seem to check the profiles of their cheerleaders on Twitter. I suppose some of them might actually believe that the fishnet-clad bulge is just a resting female penis, but still.

There was a bit of you can't tell me what to do in the middle there.
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DickKerrLadies · 27/06/2020 19:02

[quote TornadoOfSouls]@DickKerrLadies I think Reuniono must be new.

Try posting in MN, the ‘safe space for all women’, about using disabled loos, buggies on buses, or whether it’s okay to ask people to take their shoes off in your house, Reuniono, and FWR will seem like a warm pile of sweet fluffy kittens by comparison![/quote]
Misgendering is a deleteable offence on FWR, with a few very specific exceptions - mainly rapists. We are allowed to misgender rapists.

Personally, I refer to names rather than using pronouns online - after all, anyone who says they are trans is trans (#AcceptanceWithoutException #NoDebate - you're right, this is fun!) and to say that such people are not really trans seems transphobic to me.

I do not deny anyone their gender identity, I just don't think it changes their sex. Is that transphobic?

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DickKerrLadies · 27/06/2020 19:03

Hmmm, ignore the extra quote!

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borntobequiet · 27/06/2020 19:04

In what way is Glinner speaking over women?

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ExoticEdna · 27/06/2020 19:04

'Do you think it is OK for a 13 year old girl (say, your daughter) to share a shower with a 50 year old, 6 foot self-identified transwoman who has an intact male physique, including penis?'

Why on earth would a 13yr old be sharing a shower with a stranger in the first place? That's a safe guarding issue in itself.

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Nihiloxica · 27/06/2020 19:05

This is nonsense. No-one seriously believes that the views of anyone banned from Twitter are silenced.

Grin

Nice try.

I've seen them crowing about what it did to Milo Yiannopoulos. They KNOW the silencing effect. That's why they do it.

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Nihiloxica · 27/06/2020 19:08

@ExoticEdna

'Do you think it is OK for a 13 year old girl (say, your daughter) to share a shower with a 50 year old, 6 foot self-identified transwoman who has an intact male physique, including penis?'

Why on earth would a 13yr old be sharing a shower with a stranger in the first place? That's a safe guarding issue in itself.

13 year old girls should be able to go safely into public spaces such as swimming pools by themselves.

Why would that be a safeguarding issue?
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bellinisurge · 27/06/2020 19:08

"Why on earth would a 13yr old be sharing a shower with a stranger in the first place? That's a safe guarding issue in itself."

Says someone who has never been in a women's changing room at a gym or a swimming pool.

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ListeningQuietly · 27/06/2020 19:08

I admit, until I started reading up and checking

I presumed that the Transwomen were like my friend

  • utterly unhappy as a male, had full surgery as soon as they could, never denied who they used to be but live quietly as a female with their male partner


It was only when I realised that men who want to be called stereotypically female names funny that they never go for Jo or Sam or Jem
demand the right to beat women at sport
invade women's spaces
and totally rewrite history by having their birth certificates changed

how shit must it make their kids feel to know that Dad wants to deny ever being their dad

Keep up the good work @Glinner
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Bubbletrouble43 · 27/06/2020 19:14

@Glinner
I follow you on twitter and want to thank you for being one of the miniscule number of men in the public eye who are speaking out about this. I find it pretty incredible that the majority of men I know in real life are GC but so few male celebrities appear to be. Weird discrepancy.

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purpleboy · 27/06/2020 19:14
  • 'Do you think it is OK for a 13 year old girl (say, your daughter) to share a shower with a 50 year old, 6 foot self-identified transwoman who has an intact male physique, including penis?'

    Why on earth would a 13yr old be sharing a shower with a stranger in the first place? That's a safe guarding issue in itself.*

    I'm sorry what now? So our daughters are not allowed to use the local swimming pools?
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prolefeed · 27/06/2020 19:14

I got banned from twitter on a thread about Shon Faye’s book launch because I linked an article about being a man who wears make-up BY THE SAME AUTHOR (and saying that I quite liked the article but was disappointed in the new version. ) I assume for dead-naming or misgendering or some such made-up bollocks (didn’t bother to go back to find out) but women are genuinely getting banned for linking to published mainstream articles in the public domain, just because ‘transwomen’ object. (Although technically I think it was LOJ that objected in that particular instance).
Twitter continues to curate and codify ‘reality’. It doesn’t reflect free speech (except for MAPs and #girlslikeus) and is intent on a rewriting history gambit. It’s very interesting.
Fighting against reality is never really going to catch on though, despite the room 101 tactics. Neither LOJ nor Harrop is ever going to shack up with a transman or get a transwoman to provide a womb for rent.
It’s all lip service. No one really believes any of it. Despite the showy twitter bans.

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Doyoumind · 27/06/2020 19:15

Exactly *bellini". The swimming pool near me is large but old and the changing facilities are woeful. There are only a few cubicles and so when it is busy the only option is to change in the communal area. Schools use one of the pools and there aren't enough cubicles for all the girls to use them. It's very relaxed and many women strip completely in the shower. Boys have to change in the men's from 8yo but some people are OK with anyone who says they are a woman changing in there, apparently, penis or no penis.

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TehBewilderness · 27/06/2020 19:20

each time i read a thread like this i wonder what would happen if everyone on here who dedicates so much time and effort towards bitching about trans people on twitter did some real-life activism to improve the lives of women and girls.

Mark your BINGO cards

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LondonCaIIing · 27/06/2020 19:22

There's an odd kind of phenomenon where people who regularly use Twitter get an inflated perception of its importance/influence. It's a kind of bubble.

I'm 35 and I don't use Twitter. I don't know anybody, not in my friendship circle nor among my younger siblings or their wives/husbands, who does.

Twitter is not the be all and end all. Most people I know are just normal, down to Earth people, and most of them would agree that males should not share female toilets/changing rooms and should not compete against females in sports. That wouldn't be a controversial opinion in the slightest.

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prolefeed · 27/06/2020 19:23

The twitter spat where Stella Creasy suggested that the solution for a teenage girl who had been traumatized by sharing a shower with a male bodied person with an erect penis was one that really opened my eyes. The erect penis was just an unfortunate by-product of doing the right thing, and could be easily off-set by offering therapy to any females who were collateral damage. Oddly, Boone had suggested therapy for the male person who was choosing to exercise their self ID rights.
Women and children should not just be viewed as unfortunate but acceptable collateral damage in the grand rights lobby.
Sorry, but no.
I am not accepting that role.

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AllTheUsernamesAreAlreadyTaken · 27/06/2020 19:23

My understanding is that transgender people are not saying or claiming to be female - they are saying they want the right to identify as a woman

I did too. Then I fell into the hole and realised that they believe that they ARE women. Some even believe they are better women. Access to women’s prisons, access to women’s rape crisis centres, access to women’s refuges, access to women’s sports. Anyone who objects is a transphobic bigot.
It’s absolutely terrifying.

I’m particularly concerned for trans men in this debate. They will have been subjected to misogyny growing up and many will still have the physical disadvantages of other biological women (in terms of height, speed and strength). If trans women are put in female prisons, it will follow that trans men are put in male prisons.

Why are TRAs not terrified of the potential effects of their argument on trans men?

Why can’t we all agree that a third space is needed? And put all this energy we put into arguing into creating them? That it’s not good enough to leave a huge portion of the population terrified to access spaces.

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prolefeed · 27/06/2020 19:24

Fucking Boone again. Noone. Obv.

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Lamahaha · 27/06/2020 19:27

@ExoticEdna

'Do you think it is OK for a 13 year old girl (say, your daughter) to share a shower with a 50 year old, 6 foot self-identified transwoman who has an intact male physique, including penis?'

Why on earth would a 13yr old be sharing a shower with a stranger in the first place? That's a safe guarding issue in itself.

There are communal showers and changing rooms at some swimming pools -- mine, for instance. Communal showers (single sex), where everyone strips naked, are the norm in Germany.

I forgot, however, to add in my post above, that this would be a communal shower/changing room signed as single sex: for women.

If TWAW, the 50 year old 6 foot transwoman would, should surely be allowed to be there.
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ExoticEdna · 27/06/2020 19:28

'Says someone who has never been in a women's changing room at a gym or a swimming pool.'

Ah sorry I misunderstood. When the pp said should a 13yr old have to shower with a 50yr old stranger with a penis it sounded like it was just the 2 of them alone locked in a cubicle.

If you mean communal showering areas where people have swimming costumes on what difference does it make whether it's a man in trunks or a transwoman in a swimming costume? I would make sure a 13 yr old had adult supervision if I didn't think they could manage.

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prolefeed · 27/06/2020 19:29

Oh you missed the Stella Creasy thread. Are you not on twitter much?

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prolefeed · 27/06/2020 19:30

That one was a fellow teen in a secondary school. Where you have to shower naked after PE.

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