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Twitter has suspended me

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Glinner · 27/06/2020 03:16

I'm really sorry to barge in on you Mumsnettters with my problems, but
I've been finally suspended from Twitter and I have a feeling they're either going to ban me or just take my verified tick. I've submitted an appeal with Twitter and the Better Business Bureau but I thought I'd post here too so people knew what was going on.

Recently, I keep being locked out of my account and forced to delete tweets to get back in. The latest tactic by trans rights activists is to run a search for any time I've used the word 'groomer', a phrase Twitter recently decided was Not Allowed.

This was not a violation of Twitter's ToS at the time I used the phrase, and I have been careful to avoid it since. I still use the word 'grooming' in various permutations because I believe that gender ideology is a form of societal grooming. It is a very real threat to the wellbeing of women and children and if our ability to name a threat is removed, it is even more difficult to fight that threat.

You may remember that Twitter similarly removed Canadian feminist Meghan Murphy. She lost her account when she said "that's him" about 'Jessica' Yaniv. Bear in mind that Yaniv was still going under 'Jonathan' at the time, and just as in my case, her crime against Twitter's Terms of Service was not actually an offence at the time she committed it. She probably never thought she could be banned from the public square for uttering the words "that's him". But that's Twitter.

Twitter has a high percentage of trans-identified employees and for some time has been silencing feminists and their allies who run afoul of its absurd 'misgendering' policies. The one good thing about my situation is that I'm in great company--Claire Graham, Meghan Murphy, Skylar Gwynn, Miranda Yardley, GNC Centric and many more, important feminist and critical voices who have been silenced for fighting a dangerous ideology that tells children it's possible to be born into the wrong body.

Anyway, that's what's happening. Please let people know it's entirely down to malicious reporting from the usual suspects and please keep watching my YouTube Channel and visiting my depressing blog. I'll also be available on Glindr if people from Twitter want to re-establish contact there. Hope it's ok to post these links to those destinations

YouTube:
Glindr: glindr.org/home
Women are Important: glinner.co.uk/

Thanks for all the support, and thanks for letting me fight alongside you.

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ChaToilLeam · 27/06/2020 17:07

Just want to say: thanks @Glinner. You and others like you have opened many eyes.

WanderinWomb · 27/06/2020 17:08

He's said several times that the accounts on Parler are fake. He may join at a later date but at present it is only impostors.

If you read the very first post it's made quite clear what platforms he is using.

SuperJan · 27/06/2020 17:09

@peadarm

Fine: 'Ducks are birds' doesn't mean 'ducks = birds' or 'all birds are ducks'.

SuperJan · 27/06/2020 17:11

[quote SuperJan]@peadarm

Fine: 'Ducks are birds' doesn't mean 'ducks = birds' or 'all birds are ducks'.[/quote]
Or, if you're getting really pedantic,

'Mallard ducks are ducks' doesn't mean 'all ducks are Mallard ducks'.

Goyle · 27/06/2020 17:11

I missed all these drama llamas overnight!

@Glinner I followed you on Twitter. I know the type of BS thrown at you. You are welcome here.

Until a couple of weeks ago I posted on Twitter on a variety of subjects, like religion and atheism, LGBTQ+ issues, race relations and politics. I suppose my views don't align with the MSM and the "thought police" on Twitter. My views come from talking to people I know who are in the experience and I learn a completely different viewpoint. But these views are seen as "racist", "transphobic" or "intolerant" even though I might be parroting what my lesbian/Muslim/trans/black friends say...if you say something that doesn't fit the accepted (fake?) experience you are vilified and abused.

But when I challenge the trolls to back up their arguments they just come back with more abuse. I persist, but I get called all sorts.

A big one was, if you insist I say TWAW, why won't you stop calling me cisgender? I'm a woman too! You can't have it just one way! It would send the trolls mad and again they could never give a reasonable explanation.

The nail in the coffin for me was when I saw JKR's tweet about "people who menstruate" and I offered support, but a troll threatened me called me names and said they would go after my family. I didn't bother reporting because Twitter's guidelines are applied so very inconsistently, and I knew I wouldn't get redress. So I deactivated my account and I haven't been back.

Twitter harmed my mental health, I can see that now. Not being on Twitter is freeing. I suddenly have time to do things. My husband, who like me has anxiety is still on Twitter and gets so angry and indignant about the crap he sees on there. I have asked him over and over to quit, but he won't.

I still support women and equality but I come here, or read blogs, or the very interesting articles the Times has at the moment. Apart from Instagram I'm not on any social media now. I am proud though, that Owen Jones blockedme. But then he blocks everyone who isn't a misogynist wankpot.

GimmeAy · 27/06/2020 17:12

I find it distasteful of MN that a poster has proclaimed to have been banned from Twitter, yet is allowed a following on here.
Catch up MN.
It's not the only gay in the village territory now.
We should be a tolerant society and MN should be endorsing that.
Not allowing bigots banned from elsewhere to warble their tune on here.

nickymanchester · 27/06/2020 17:14

@Tianalia

I've been watching twitter's share prices dropping this week. I wonder why that's happened 🤔
@Tianalia That's because Unilever and Coca Cola have said they will stop advertising on Facebook and Twitter for the rest of the year due to hate speech etc and Proctor & Gamble look set to follow as well.

Unilever have a huge number of brands, everything from Dove, Lynx and Persil through to PG Tips, Pot Noodles and Ben & Jerrys ice cream

prolefeed · 27/06/2020 17:14

Oh sweets, we’re all bigots here. Catch up.

Wolfgirrl · 27/06/2020 17:15

@SuperJan

Semantics are just that: semantics. We could change the word oven to mean cloud; it doesn't mean the two are the same thing. Whichever word applies to a person with female internal anatomy and XX chromosomes, will never apply to anyone we currently call 'genetically male'.

So even if we did starting can transwomen 'women', they wouldn't be. And then they would fight to be called 'ciswomen' because then that would be the word for a real woman.

happyless · 27/06/2020 17:16

I've followed @Glinner for a long time. I don't really agree with his methods, but I think he's asking important questions and I'll miss reading his posts.

My understanding is that transgender people are not saying or claiming to be female - they are saying they want the right to identify as a woman. So there's no argument about the biological facts of life, but in terms of gender, they identify more as women than men, and therefore feel more comfortable using the women's bathroom. Under E&D laws 'sex' is the protected characteristic but the wording says man/woman instead of male/female. And we talk about womens rights rather than female rights.

I've been confused by this for ages, but I believe that's on the right lines of the problem (in a very simplified way). I really want to understand the bones of it - is that it?

I don't understand why asking questions and opening debate gets people branded transphobic - it puts me off asking anything at all.

Nihiloxica · 27/06/2020 17:17

I find it distasteful of MN that a poster has proclaimed to have been banned from Twitter, yet is allowed a following on here.

So you think people should be banned from all websites for breaking the terms of service of just one website? Grin

Wolfgirrl · 27/06/2020 17:17

@GimmeAy

We should be a tolerant society and MN should be endorsing that

You're not 'tolerating' Graham though?

Goyle · 27/06/2020 17:18

This reply has been deleted

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 27/06/2020 17:18

My understanding is that transgender people are not saying or claiming to be female

Some are, actually. Why do you think many people are so invested in denying the existence of biological sex?

BubblegumFactory · 27/06/2020 17:18

All these posters who have come over to Mumsnet to hurl abuse and create a stir remind me of kids in the playground who run over to watch a fight in the playground because they secretly love the violence.
They then revel in the stories they can tell in the aftermath.
Grow up or go away.

JemimaShore · 27/06/2020 17:20

I find it distasteful of MN that a poster has proclaimed to have been banned from Twitter, yet is allowed a following on here.

Gimmeay There is no "following" on here - it's an open chat board, where anyone is free to post or start a thread.

Glinner has posted on Mumsnet for a while now (a couple of years at least) - he doesn't dominate, and Mumsnet HQ would only ban him if he breached the guidelines here.

Mumsnet isn't a branch of Twitter, you know - and Twitter isn't the arbiter of who is allowed to post stuff on the rest of the internet.

WanderinWomb · 27/06/2020 17:20

@GimmeAy

I find it distasteful of MN that a poster has proclaimed to have been banned from Twitter, yet is allowed a following on here. Catch up MN. It's not the only gay in the village territory now. We should be a tolerant society and MN should be endorsing that. Not allowing bigots banned from elsewhere to warble their tune on here.
Do you find it distasteful that Mumnsnet banned posters talk on Twitter? Or Facebook banned posters talk on Lipstick Alley?

I'd love to see some screenshots of you making this point on other services

Maybe you don't and are just a big hypocrite.

Go well.

Institutkarite · 27/06/2020 17:22

@Jux

Can we please, PLEASE not delete posts by trolls, just make them poo-coloured? I'm actually serious about this. I know the first time I suggested it (years ago) it was a bit of a joke, but as time goes by I feel more and more strongly that this MN should take this path.
I think that Jux has a point. All the deletions will be paraded on Twatter just to 'prove' how transphobic Mumsnet is. If MNHQ left them in plain sight then all will be able to clearly see the Misogyny and hatred. I recognise most of the regular's names and it's clear to me that the pile on is not from regular users of FWR. @MNHQ, if you could leave them to stand but in a different colour then it will be clear that these are not regular users of Mumsnet.
prolefeed · 27/06/2020 17:23

No male can ever magically change into a female. They can appropriate whatever they believe to be the stereotypes they believe in that uphold whatever the current version of the nonsense that is ‘gender’, they can surgically or medically alter their actual real ‘true’ bodies to change what they look or feel like, but it’s essentially meaningless in physical terms (as an approved treatment for dysphoria it could help them feel better, but no guarantees).
We can argue semantics about ducks until you fill the thread if you insist, but it will alter reality not one jot.
Are you named after Jan Morris out of interest? Fascinating. A good example of a male fathering many children who latterly decided to dress differently and use drugs and surgery to change appearance. As an old school transsexual, a very interesting person.

McCanne · 27/06/2020 17:23

‘Trans women are women’ is illogical in the context of feminism. There is a conflict in that feminist spaces cannot facilitate a supportive woman-only environment for women and girls who may be negatively affected by the transitions of men in their lives, while said men are welcomed into and dominate those self-same environments. It places unreasonable expectations on women in order to be included in feminist spaces, through nothing they themselves have done. This is absolutely basic stuff. Feminism is not and will never be for everyone.

nauticant · 27/06/2020 17:24

Assuming ExoticEdna is posting in good faith, I actually agree with some of what they're saying. My view is you present the best facts, avoiding truthy ones, in the most persuasive way, to the right audience, ie the undecideds, and keep personal stuff, anger, insults, etc, out of it.

IHeartSusanDey · 27/06/2020 17:25

No Happylass, that isn't it. These men are not the old school transsexuals. The men pushing trans ideology are extremely abusive, so utterly hateful and misogynistic, that they are obsessed with stripping women of the rights we NEED because of our biology. They are driven by the desire to access and harm women and children. They are men's sexual rights activists and they know the way to truly damage women is to pretend that biological sex is not important or relevant...or even a thing. They are taking our sex, our identities, our experiences and our lives as their own,

People think the nasty feminists are being mean to Hayley from Coronation Street. They need to wake up and understand these men are NOTHING like that.

vivariumvivariumsvivaria · 27/06/2020 17:25

I LOVE the idea of poo coloured troll posts.

Yes please. Let their nonsense stand.

JemimaShore · 27/06/2020 17:26

Honestly, he's been banned from Twitter now. You got what you wanted, and it's still not enough.

You want him erased from the whole internet as well? It ain't gonna happen.

Problem is, people banned from twitter aren't actually erased from the whole universe. They still exist, and they can still talk on other platforms. They still have a voice, they can still write, contact their MPs and campaign. He's not going away just 'cos he's off Twitter Grin

Ereshkigalangcleg · 27/06/2020 17:28

Mumsnet isn't a branch of Twitter, you know - and Twitter isn't the arbiter of who is allowed to post stuff on the rest of the internet.

Twitter shouldn't be the arbiter of anything. It's awful and full of paedophilia, racism, misogyny and other prejudice, quite happily, it's not some moral guardian of society. It's just that a lot of TRAs work in the IT/Tech industry so trans issues are prioritised.

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