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Glinner · 27/06/2020 03:16

I'm really sorry to barge in on you Mumsnettters with my problems, but
I've been finally suspended from Twitter and I have a feeling they're either going to ban me or just take my verified tick. I've submitted an appeal with Twitter and the Better Business Bureau but I thought I'd post here too so people knew what was going on.

Recently, I keep being locked out of my account and forced to delete tweets to get back in. The latest tactic by trans rights activists is to run a search for any time I've used the word 'groomer', a phrase Twitter recently decided was Not Allowed.

This was not a violation of Twitter's ToS at the time I used the phrase, and I have been careful to avoid it since. I still use the word 'grooming' in various permutations because I believe that gender ideology is a form of societal grooming. It is a very real threat to the wellbeing of women and children and if our ability to name a threat is removed, it is even more difficult to fight that threat.

You may remember that Twitter similarly removed Canadian feminist Meghan Murphy. She lost her account when she said "that's him" about 'Jessica' Yaniv. Bear in mind that Yaniv was still going under 'Jonathan' at the time, and just as in my case, her crime against Twitter's Terms of Service was not actually an offence at the time she committed it. She probably never thought she could be banned from the public square for uttering the words "that's him". But that's Twitter.

Twitter has a high percentage of trans-identified employees and for some time has been silencing feminists and their allies who run afoul of its absurd 'misgendering' policies. The one good thing about my situation is that I'm in great company--Claire Graham, Meghan Murphy, Skylar Gwynn, Miranda Yardley, GNC Centric and many more, important feminist and critical voices who have been silenced for fighting a dangerous ideology that tells children it's possible to be born into the wrong body.

Anyway, that's what's happening. Please let people know it's entirely down to malicious reporting from the usual suspects and please keep watching my YouTube Channel and visiting my depressing blog. I'll also be available on Glindr if people from Twitter want to re-establish contact there. Hope it's ok to post these links to those destinations

YouTube:
Glindr: glindr.org/home
Women are Important: glinner.co.uk/

Thanks for all the support, and thanks for letting me fight alongside you.

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TehBewilderness · 27/06/2020 17:53

It started with "you deserved it" and ended with describing their porn fantasies.
I got tired of reporting the brigade and gave it up as a doomed thread.

LillianBland · 27/06/2020 17:55

[quote SusieOwl4]@LillianBland

Very thought provoking.

A genuine question does a transman feel they have to go into men’s changing rooms /toilets and feel safe there ?

I am new to this debate and it all seems to be about transwomen at the moment .[/quote]
I daresay each female bodied person who identifies as trans, makes whatever choice they feel comfortable with. Just as some transsexuals will continue to use Male toilets, because they acknowledge that their presence in female only spaces might make women feel uncomfortable, I daresay some female bodied people who identify as trans, do so for similar reasons. I can tell you that female bodied people are not permitted to be jailed in male jails because it puts them at risk (funny how those in charge of jails recognise sex when it suits them). Female bodied people who identify as trans are not permitted to join the masons and are excluded from primogeniture. Men get to say what women are, while also deciding what they’re willing to give up for female bodied people who identify as trans.

Tianalia · 27/06/2020 17:55

'Not allowing bigots banned from elsewhere to warble their tune on here.'

A platform that allows peodophiles and violence / hatred towards women can hardly be held up as a leader of good judgement when it comes to banning people.

Staffy1 · 27/06/2020 17:56

And I think that it is a good parallel in that if you were to actually ask most catholics to be utterly and completely honest - they would admit that they don't truly believe that the wafer on their tongue is the body of Christ (Sorry for those that do. I am not meaning any offence).

I think you are wrong there, at least regarding practicing catholics.

Binterested · 27/06/2020 17:58

My understanding is that transgender people are not saying or claiming to be female - they are saying they want the right to identify as a woman

The first part of your sentence is indeed mistaken. They claim they are women just like most of us on here. In fact we are actually not women. We are menstruators and they are the ones entitled to use the word women. The fact that they often keep their male genitalia is neither here nor there - women sometimes have penises according to this loopy ideology and if you don’t agree you are a bigot.

And even those that do want to simply ‘identify’ - well they can knock themselves out but don’t expect me to collude in their false identification or give up my XX only changing room or let them compete against my XX daughter in sports. And don’t use this ‘identity’ to take women’s places on parliamentary shortlists, prizes and appointments for women, honorary positions intended for women.

Oh and don’t tell children they might be trapped in the wrong body.

Other than that crack on.

LillianBland · 27/06/2020 18:03

@SusieOwl4 I should also add that female bodied people who identify as trans are not discussed as much, because they don’t affect the the rights of women, however men are welcome to protest or complain if they feel uncomfortable having them in male spaces, as their feelings should also be respected under these circumstances. It tends to be male bodied people who identify as trans that are the most vocal, because they’re the ones demanding access to single sex spaces, no matter how the females feel about or object to that. Make and female socialisation becomes very evident if you look at the differences between in behaviour and sense of entitlement between both sexes.

Wolfgirrl · 27/06/2020 18:03

Can we please leave Catholics out of it? I'm Catholic and I would rather my faith was left out of the trans argument.

IHeartSusanDey · 27/06/2020 18:05

Maud you could never offend me, please don't worry two things about it. I have no problems at all with people saying anything at all about my faith. People SHOULD challenge and question beliefs and no way would I get offended about that. Unlike the TRAs, but they're mad.

Nihiloxica · 27/06/2020 18:08

@Staffy1

And I think that it is a good parallel in that if you were to actually ask most catholics to be utterly and completely honest - they would admit that they don't truly believe that the wafer on their tongue is the body of Christ (Sorry for those that do. I am not meaning any offence).

I think you are wrong there, at least regarding practicing catholics.

They wouldn't admit it.

But nobody can actually, really, seriously, rationally believe that the piece of industrially produced wafer welding itself to the roof of their mouth is ACTUALLY, LITERALLY the flesh of a man who died 2000 years ago.

The power of it is getting people to repeatedly say they believe something so obviously false and ridiculous.

Like saying that transwomen are literally women. It's so obviously false, but the power is in forcing people to believe something they know can't in any meaningful way be true, and then getting them to say it over and over.

I don't respect the Catholic faith, but I was raised in it.

Wolfgirrl · 27/06/2020 18:10

@IHeartSusanDey like you I dont find it offensive and I am more than happy for people to say what they like about my faith, but I don't see what it brings to this argument. It is a false comparison and if I'm being honest, it is always Catholicism being trashed over other religions as people know they won't be accused of being islamophobic/antisemitic/whatever.

The Vatican have made their stance on transgenderism perfectly clear.

TornadoOfSouls · 27/06/2020 18:10

Been away from the thread doing some womanly work in the kitchen so I’m a bit behind.

@Serafinapekkalas. Can you explain what it means to you that ‘trans women are women’? In what way are they women? How do you perceive this statement to be true? Please, I really would like to know your thoughts about it.

So interesting that the thread has moved on to transubstantiation. I think transgenderism is essentially a religion - or a cult really, though there isn’t a ‘leader’ (unlike the MN terf crew & Glinner) In all seriousness though, the belief in things that aren’t true, the policed vocabulary, the fear and hatred of the out-group, it’s fascinating. And horrifying.

terryleather · 27/06/2020 18:11

@MrsWooster

A couple of pages ago ygrittesnow pointed out that we will NEVER accept tw as women into our female world. As the Bipsycle s excellent psychoanalytical thread showed, this is why the level of anger: they know they can’t achieve what they long for and secretly know isn’t true. The cognitive dissonance and frustration must make them simply writhe with rage. That’s why we simply need to grey rock and withstand because they can never win and they will never accept that. Like toddler rage, it’s simply got to be a calm “I know you’re upset and, no, you still can’t”
This is the crux.

We've already "won" because reality will always triumph over illusion.

Not for the first time and not for the last, this quote from Lisa Muggeridge is apt:

"All accusations are admissions. This is a very reliable compass. They will attribute their own motivations and actions to you because their identity is the only thing they can see and they can only see you as a reflection or threat to it"

As the young 'uns say Die mad about it.

Wolfgirrl · 27/06/2020 18:12

@Nihiloxica the difference is you can choose to be, or not be, a Catholic. Catholics are not trying to change the law to compel non-Catholics to proclaim the bread to be the Body of Christ.

Plus bringing Catholicism into the argument gives credence to the TRA's accusations of GCs being somehow driven by the religious far right in the States.

Institutkarite · 27/06/2020 18:12

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Anotherlovelybitofsquirrel · 27/06/2020 18:13

I'm not sure why Glinner isn't welcome here when born men are waving their penises around in women's loos and changing rooms.

Care to explain, Anna?

Yes. Please do!

@Serafinapekkalas. Can you explain what it means to you that ‘trans women are women’? In what way are they women? How do you perceive this statement to be true? Please, I really would like to know your thoughts about it

Ditto. You too, please tell us how you came to this conclusion Serafina. I'm all ears.

PrincessConsuelaVaginaHammock · 27/06/2020 18:13

each time i read a thread like this i wonder what would happen if everyone on here who dedicates so much time and effort towards bitching about trans people on twitter did some real-life activism to improve the lives of women and girls.

It says a lot about you snowsuit that you imagine people posting views you don't like about trans issues aren't doing any real life activism to improve the lives of women and girls.

IHeartSusanDey · 27/06/2020 18:14

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TornadoOfSouls · 27/06/2020 18:14

@Wolfgirrl apologies for any offence. I go to an Anglo-Catholic church myself.

Anotherlovelybitofsquirrel · 27/06/2020 18:15

@PrincessConsuelaVaginaHammock Smile

It says a lot about you snowsuit that you imagine people posting views you don't like about trans issues aren't doing any real life activism to improve the lives of women and girls

It certainly does.

tellmewhentheLangshiplandscoz · 27/06/2020 18:15

Back after a few hours and straight away notice that,
A) no one has yet provided evidence of supposed transphobia, and
B) the language used by those GC amongst us continues to be policed by other posters, and
C) Dr Fanny Craddock continues to talk utter shit Grin

Sod this, I'm making a Martini (Gin, dirty), can I mix one for anyone else? It may be a long night.

SusieOwl4 · 27/06/2020 18:16

@LillianBland

Thank you for your reply .

Redshoeblueshoe · 27/06/2020 18:17

Thanks Graham.Wine

Wolfgirrl · 27/06/2020 18:17

@TornadoOfSouls none taken at all Smile totally happy to discuss anything about my faith, I just don't see how it is related to the trans argument, and don't want it to add more red herring ammo to the TRA's campaign.

TornadoOfSouls · 27/06/2020 18:17

@Wolfgirrl thanks. You’re right & I agree with you.

Redshoeblueshoe · 27/06/2020 18:24

Langship how lovely. Martini sounds perfect

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