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Twitter has suspended me

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Glinner · 27/06/2020 03:16

I'm really sorry to barge in on you Mumsnettters with my problems, but
I've been finally suspended from Twitter and I have a feeling they're either going to ban me or just take my verified tick. I've submitted an appeal with Twitter and the Better Business Bureau but I thought I'd post here too so people knew what was going on.

Recently, I keep being locked out of my account and forced to delete tweets to get back in. The latest tactic by trans rights activists is to run a search for any time I've used the word 'groomer', a phrase Twitter recently decided was Not Allowed.

This was not a violation of Twitter's ToS at the time I used the phrase, and I have been careful to avoid it since. I still use the word 'grooming' in various permutations because I believe that gender ideology is a form of societal grooming. It is a very real threat to the wellbeing of women and children and if our ability to name a threat is removed, it is even more difficult to fight that threat.

You may remember that Twitter similarly removed Canadian feminist Meghan Murphy. She lost her account when she said "that's him" about 'Jessica' Yaniv. Bear in mind that Yaniv was still going under 'Jonathan' at the time, and just as in my case, her crime against Twitter's Terms of Service was not actually an offence at the time she committed it. She probably never thought she could be banned from the public square for uttering the words "that's him". But that's Twitter.

Twitter has a high percentage of trans-identified employees and for some time has been silencing feminists and their allies who run afoul of its absurd 'misgendering' policies. The one good thing about my situation is that I'm in great company--Claire Graham, Meghan Murphy, Skylar Gwynn, Miranda Yardley, GNC Centric and many more, important feminist and critical voices who have been silenced for fighting a dangerous ideology that tells children it's possible to be born into the wrong body.

Anyway, that's what's happening. Please let people know it's entirely down to malicious reporting from the usual suspects and please keep watching my YouTube Channel and visiting my depressing blog. I'll also be available on Glindr if people from Twitter want to re-establish contact there. Hope it's ok to post these links to those destinations

YouTube:
Glindr: glindr.org/home
Women are Important: glinner.co.uk/

Thanks for all the support, and thanks for letting me fight alongside you.

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LillianBland · 27/06/2020 17:30

@GimmeAy

I find it distasteful of MN that a poster has proclaimed to have been banned from Twitter, yet is allowed a following on here. Catch up MN. It's not the only gay in the village territory now. We should be a tolerant society and MN should be endorsing that. Not allowing bigots banned from elsewhere to warble their tune on here.
I think we can safely say that Mumsnet has well and truly caught up to what twitter are like towards those who want to protect women’s rights and safety. That’s why they’re giving women a voice on here.

We should be a tolerant society and MN should be endorsing that.

You mean, women should permit male bodied people into ALL female spaces, including, but not limited to;

Shelters purposely funded by and for women fleeing abuse.
Female wards, no matter how vulnerable the patients are.
In psychiatric units, even if the female patients are absolutely terrified of male bodied people.
Open planned changing rooms, even if it is full of young, self conscious girls. If they object to the male bodied person staring at them or walking around with their penis on show, then they are bigots as it’s a girldick.
Rape crisis centres that provide services for females that are petrified of male bodied people as a result of the abuse inflicted by other male bodied people.
Medical services, such as smear tests where a woman specifically asks for a female member of staff. (No women must refuse to have a male bodied person see and touch her female anatomy, if that male bodied person identifies as trans)
Marches to support women that have been raped and sexually harassed by male bodied people as that’s trans exclusionary.
Female jails, even if the male bodied person has commuted sex crimes against women.

I have t even started about awards for females and female sports, where women have been absolutely battered and had limbs broken by male bodied people who identify as trans. Is that the kind of tolerance you want?

DadOnIce · 27/06/2020 17:30

@Nihiloxica

Transwomen are women in the sense that this bread has become the body of our Lord Jesus Christ.
That's amazing! I know a Catholic who supports the whole trans ideology and it suddenly makes sense to me why... Trans-substantiation... Good lord... ! Smile
maudspellbody · 27/06/2020 17:31

*Happyless
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I think the problem with your simplified version is that you are trying to look at this as a two-sided debate. On the one hand, GC feminists are saying that 'woman' has a factual and biological definition and that can not be changed or co-opted.

Yet on the other side of the debate...what? There is no one position.

There are TRAs who claim that there is no such thing as sex - it is a spectrum and, therefore, meaningless.

Others says that biological sex is very real, but their brain is the wrong gender.

Still others say that biological sex is real, but is irrelevant. Because what matters is this subjective feeling of gender, which is whatever someone says it is.

It's inconsistent. Many of the discussions go in circles - because no conversation can work when people are using different definitions for the words they use.

It's like trying to put an octopus in a string bag having these conversations.

And that is before someone shouts 'hate!' at you for even trying to pin down an agreed definition of a term for discussion.

If I was to boil it down it would be far simpler...

GC feminists believe that a woman is an adult human being.

TRA's disagree (using whatever range of positions they like - including those above)

And yes. I'm afraid some really do believe they are biological women because they say they are.

RedDogsBeg · 27/06/2020 17:31

My understanding is that transgender people are not saying or claiming to be female - they are saying they want the right to identify as a woman. So there's no argument about the biological facts of life, but in terms of gender, they identify more as women than men, and therefore feel more comfortable using the women's bathroom.

Unfortunately you are mistaken in your understanding, TRA'a are insisting that they are female, their male body parts are female body parts and anyone who disagrees is transphobic and deserves to be beaten, raped and die in a fire.

Secondly, why should anyone have the right to identify as something they are not? Can I identify as black and disabled when I am white and perfectly able bodied?

Finally, what about the comfort of the women in the women's bathroom, why is their comfort, privacy, safety and dignity deemed to be meaningless and disregarded?

maudspellbody · 27/06/2020 17:35

GC feminists believe that a woman is an adult FEMALE human being.

Missed out the most important word! It has been a loooong day.

IHeartSusanDey · 27/06/2020 17:35

I'm Catholic and the difference with transubstantiation is that GOD changes it. God is omnipotent. Whereas men think they can change sex just by saying so...I know most men believe they're gods and all but I don't think they have that much power.

ErrolTheDragon · 27/06/2020 17:35

but in terms of gender, they identify more as women than men, and therefore feel more comfortable using the women's bathroom.

Loos are segregated by sex, biological reality, not by 'gender' and feeling. There is plenty of good reason for the former (which is why this system exist) but no rational basis for the latter.

LastRoloIsMine · 27/06/2020 17:36

Transwomen are women in the sense that this bread has become the body of our Lord Jesus Christ.

Ih crikey I am not sure if you believe this or are being tongue in cheek Shock

Please let me know.

Nihiloxica · 27/06/2020 17:38

I know a Catholic who supports the whole trans ideology and it suddenly makes sense to me why... Trans-substantiation...

Look at the countries that have embraced self ID in the EU and are held up as exemplars - Ireland, Malta.

If you grow up being taught that you must publicly declaim a belief in something that is obviously impossible, it maybe has an effect on your psyche.

Both Ireland and Malta either have or very recently had very anti-woman abortion laws. The 8th amendment to the Irish constitution was a horror show.

maudspellbody · 27/06/2020 17:38

@LastRoloIsMine

Transwomen are women in the sense that this bread has become the body of our Lord Jesus Christ.

Ih crikey I am not sure if you believe this or are being tongue in cheek Shock

Please let me know.

I think she's saying they are both statements of faith and belief.
SusieOwl4 · 27/06/2020 17:41

I really don’t know what the answer is . It’s a very complicated subject where it seems like compromise is needed , but can’t be reached if there is not sensible debate .

purpleboy · 27/06/2020 17:41

*Unfortunately you are mistaken in your understanding, TRA'a are insisting that they are female, their male body parts are female body parts and anyone who disagrees is transphobic and deserves to be beaten, raped and die in a fire.

Secondly, why should anyone have the right to identify as something they are not? Can I identify as black and disabled when I am white and perfectly able bodied?

Finally, what about the comfort of the women in the women's bathroom, why is their comfort, privacy, safety and dignity deemed to be meaningless and disregarded?*

Why is it there is never an answer to these questions?
I just want a single answer, I've seen these questions (with different phraseology) and I've never seen an answer that aligns with the persons views that TWAW. The 2 positions are mutually exclusive, one side will loose out because their wants will never go together.

Nihiloxica · 27/06/2020 17:42

I think she's saying they are both statements of faith and belief.

Kind of.

What I'm saying is that both are things that nobody actually believes but which they are required to say they believe in order to signify belonging to a group.

IHeartSusanDey · 27/06/2020 17:44

There can be no compromise with women's and girls' safety, dignity and privacy. Men need to sort out their own shit. Women do not need to compromise for men.

ErrolTheDragon · 27/06/2020 17:44

I really don’t know what the answer is . It’s a very complicated subject where it seems like compromise is needed , but can’t be reached if there is not sensible debate .

The compromise had already been reached (albeit without the consent of women). This was the GRA, with GRC requiring diagnosis etc. Many women (though not by any means all) could live with that. The concept of self ID and the widening of the 'trans umbrella' has blown that compromise out of the water.

maudspellbody · 27/06/2020 17:45

And I think that it is a good parallel in that if you were to actually ask most catholics to be utterly and completely honest - they would admit that they don't truly believe that the wafer on their tongue is the body of Christ (Sorry for those that do. I am not meaning any offence).

It was a leap for the C of E which is why they take communion as a symbol. They don't believe it either.

If you sat down most of the 'trans women are women' people and really asked them to dig deep, they would have to admit (if only to themselves) that Jessica Yaniv isn't a woman. Not actually.

IHeartSusanDey · 27/06/2020 17:45

Sorry...that is to Susie.

Institutkarite · 27/06/2020 17:45

@snowsuit

each time i read a thread like this i wonder what would happen if everyone on here who dedicates so much time and effort towards bitching about trans people on twitter did some real-life activism to improve the lives of women and girls.
Where is the bitching about transpeople? This thread is about support for @Glinner Well done Graham and thanks for all that you've done.
SusieOwl4 · 27/06/2020 17:45

@LillianBland

Very thought provoking.

A genuine question does a transman feel they have to go into men’s changing rooms /toilets and feel safe there ?

I am new to this debate and it all seems to be about transwomen at the moment .

IHeartSusanDey · 27/06/2020 17:46

Maud I absolutely do believe it because I believe in God and His absolute power. But men saying they can change sex and become women? Not a fucking chance.

Chloemol · 27/06/2020 17:46

Time everybody stopped using twitter. Then there would be no problems

Tianalia · 27/06/2020 17:47

@nickymanchester thanks for the information.

ExoticEdna · 27/06/2020 17:47

'Assuming ExoticEdna is posting in good faith'

I am! I have concerns about women's rights and trans issues but the whole issue is completely muddied by people like the op attention seeking and goading people on Twitter.

It would be like, say, if I thought a highly contentious issue like abortion was wrong I would not go around slinging insults at people who were pro abortion. Women don't have to be 'nice' but they do need to be heard and facts speak louder than insults.

'Not allowing bigots banned from elsewhere to warble their tune on here.'

He won't last long if he doesn't post within TGs here.

MadCatLady71 · 27/06/2020 17:48

@Glinner

Thank you for putting your head above the parapet time and time again and being unafraid to speak out. Recently I find I’m asking myself more and more often if I am some kind of bigoted dinosaur as all of my instincts scream that our current direction of travel is dangerous and hopelessly misguided. There are so few rational voices like yours and they are increasingly being silenced. Bon courage, my friend.

maudspellbody · 27/06/2020 17:50

Iheart
Massive respect for your faith.

And also for your feminism. You are right. No human has the power to change their God given (if you like) sex.

Sorry if I offended. I know a lot of Catholics who are slightly less... can't think of the right word... believing?

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