Twitter has suspended me

[Glinner]

I'm really sorry to barge in on you Mumsnettters with my problems, but
I've been finally suspended from Twitter and I have a feeling they're either going to ban me or just take my verified tick. I've submitted an appeal with Twitter and the Better Business Bureau but I thought I'd post here too so people knew what was going on.

Recently, I keep being locked out of my account and forced to delete tweets to get back in. The latest tactic by trans rights activists is to run a search for any time I've used the word 'groomer', a phrase Twitter recently decided was Not Allowed.

This was not a violation of Twitter's ToS at the time I used the phrase, and I have been careful to avoid it since. I still use the word 'grooming' in various permutations because I believe that gender ideology is a form of societal grooming. It is a very real threat to the wellbeing of women and children and if our ability to name a threat is removed, it is even more difficult to fight that threat.

You may remember that Twitter similarly removed Canadian feminist Meghan Murphy. She lost her account when she said "that's him" about 'Jessica' Yaniv. Bear in mind that Yaniv was still going under 'Jonathan' at the time, and just as in my case, her crime against Twitter's Terms of Service was not actually an offence at the time she committed it. She probably never thought she could be banned from the public square for uttering the words "that's him". But that's Twitter.

Twitter has a high percentage of trans-identified employees and for some time has been silencing feminists and their allies who run afoul of its absurd 'misgendering' policies. The one good thing about my situation is that I'm in great company--Claire Graham, Meghan Murphy, Skylar Gwynn, Miranda Yardley, GNC Centric and many more, important feminist and critical voices who have been silenced for fighting a dangerous ideology that tells children it's possible to be born into the wrong body.

Anyway, that's what's happening. Please let people know it's entirely down to malicious reporting from the usual suspects and please keep watching my YouTube Channel and visiting my depressing blog. I'll also be available on Glindr if people from Twitter want to re-establish contact there. Hope it's ok to post these links to those destinations

YouTube:
Glindr: glindr.org/home
Women are Important: glinner.co.uk/

Thanks for all the support, and thanks for letting me fight alongside you.

@maudspellbody

Toolatetooearly I know what you mean. It's a struggle many of us have faced. It took me a while but I think I have found my line now.

The problem is that many of us who are liberal, pro-gay rights and want to be as inclusive and compassionate as possible are up against it with this one. We don't want to be on the wrong side - and the right side has always been the side of the underdog. As Transgender people are painted as that underdog, not to affirm and fight with them feels like bigotry.

So we want to be kind to transsexuals struggling with dysphoria. We want them to find peace and be included and comfortable in their own identity.

I have always done this. I have met transsexuals in the ladies and have made them welcome. I have used 'she/her pronouns. It's a human thing to do.

This is what trans people say themselves quite often: 'we've been in the ladies with you for decades and it has never been a problem.'

But now we are in 2020.

The issue is with NEW gender identity politics. It is only recently that trans activists have asked for the word 'woman' to change its definition, or for legislation to be passed to treat their dysphoria. Some even argue that dysphoria is unnecessary. They don't need to feel like they are in the wrong body. It is not a mental illness. They just have to want to be women - and that is enough.

It is asking people to suspend their own disbelief. I think this tweet illustrates it. (I will send it to follow). It basically says that being kind is not enough. Using preferred pronouns is not enough. You are expected to truly believe that the person before you is a woman. Most people's brains can't stretch that far.

I'm not good with blind faith at the best of times. I'm an atheist. I believe in science.

So that's my line. I will be inclusive, accommodating, kind and compassionate. I will not make any individual feel uncomfortable or excluded - but I won't allow that to cross a line into thought policing and threats to safeguarding.

There are lots of transsexuals (truscum) on twitter saying the same - we have dysphoria. We are happier presenting as men/women and people are kind enough to treat us a such. But we know we haven't really changed sex. This is what we do to get by.

These people's voices are too quiet and they are turned on by the trans thought police.

And that is my line.

It's the same as JKRs, in essence - I will be kind and compassionate and fight for your right to live in freedom and without discrimination - but I draw the line at laws, prisons, sports and refuges. And I draw the line at autogynephiles in women's spaces.

And that makes me a big, fat TERF

The part about them being in the ladies and it not being a problem is an issue for me.

Yes they were, some women were still scared. We don't know which men are the 'real' transsexuals, how can you tell? Those who pass or have had surgery? That's like saying they have to be good at make up or have gone further in their surgery. Or have to meet stereotypical standards of female-ness and be feminine. Some transsexuals look much more womanly than I do, but I'm the one with Xx chromosomes.

Unfortunately for those people, as much as it pains them, which I am sorry about, they are male and should not be in the female toilets. We have separate facilities because we have different biological needs, not because we want to hang out with women in them. It's totally unfair to allow any men into the toilets, because there are women who are scared or have requirements to use facilities away from male bodied people. And once we allow one in, how can we refuse others?

Yes I got a screenshot of the doctored screenshots too. The time that Graham was meant to have replied was an hour or so before the one he's meant to be replying to.

Here to add to the chorus of support for you Glinner.

Screenshots of screenshots is a bit meta I know

gimmeay
There is a
Great deal of inconsistency about banning from twitter as evidenced by the threats of violence that remain
It's clearly run and moderated by misogynists

Thanks Graham for being one of the few people to put your conscience before your public platform. It must be frustrating being banned, but you've brought the absurdity of the TRAs into the public eye. Every cloud.

@Wolfgirrl

Thanks Graham for being one of the few people to put your conscience before your public platform. It must be frustrating being banned, but you've brought the absurdity of the TRAs into the public eye. Every cloud.

good! I hope so x

100% agree Maudspellbody. You put summarise the liberal quandary very well!

Glinner should not be banned from Twitter for retrospective reports of previous posts. That’s ridiculous. I do cringe sometimes at his repeated @-ing of celebrities, however, I have at least one real life friend who I’ve discussed trans issues with, who only came to an understanding of the concerns of women through Glinner of twitter. His profile has helped highlight the issue.

@Glinner sorry to hear that, I hope you are back soon.

What a thread, I missed all the angry men.

I hope Bewilderness has surviveed all the deletions.

It's interesting that all those deleted posts would be left to stand on twatter. But not here.

Glinner is welcome here.

To all the posters who think that men have no place on this forum - it's not an exclusively female site.
It's primarily for parents, but the site has all sorts of people on here, female, male, parents, non parents, trying-to-be-parents, grandparents etc. etc.

There is no "you must be a female person or a parent!" rule to being allowed on this site.

And jolly good thing too, sometimes! (Sometimes not, glad the TRA trolls have been removed)

The women's rights board IS the correct board for Glinner to have posted on, to let people know what has happened and why. Anyone who has followed any other links to get here, just to hound him, well that's just sad.

@maudspellbody - another one applauding your post - yes, absolutely all of that. I do not hate trans people (except the ones who want to punch/kill/rape women) but neither will I fall for this nonsense, wherein a man who looks like a man, dresses like a man, behaves like a man yet expects to be referred to as a woman thinks that he can make me believe that he is one. He's not. HE's a man - and the reactions this particular type of person has to being told they're not women just shows how male they still are.

Hoping that the tide is turning though.

So the argument is about the limits of free speech

Not from Twitter's pov. They are happy to host 'MAP' (paedophile) accounts, but they suspend women for quoting Hansard verbatim.
mobile.twitter.com/SamBarber1910/status/1063250389791883264

I'm not sure why Glinner isn't welcome here when born men are waving their penises around in women's loos and changing rooms.

Care to explain, Anna?

I too am grateful of such high profile support. The more noise the better!

Just wanted to add my thanks to Glinner. You are a truly top bloke and I wish there were more like you.

How odd, usually men posting on FWR would be mocked with 'lo the menz have spoken' comments.

I don't know the back story here but reading comments online it seems the op can be just as goady as trans activists what with 'grooming' comments.

'Posting photos of people and mocking them is a violation of the TOS. Repeatedly @'ing people when they've asked you to stop is a violation. Falsely accusing people of being pedo "groomers" is a violation. You got banned, just like you suspected you would.'

Yes just use a platform where you can post within their guidelines.

There is of course a need for intense debate around trans issues but it has to be done respectfully, no one needs to be 'nice' just surely if you want to influence change then understanding how to interact effectively is vital.

Goady fuckers never get very far, not saying you are one op I'm just saying generally debate is best had without insults. As the pp said grooming is associated with paedophilia so it will of course cause great offence.

So sorry to hear this, Graham. It's appalling. Thank you for having the courage and tenacity to stand up for women, even at personal cost.

Maybe this is a stupid question, I don't use Twitter but basically all I hear about it is that it's FULL of "woke" virtue signallers falling over themselves shout down people with differing opinions, not to mention the abundance of trolling and abuse, etc.

So, isn't there a better platform than Twitter out there? Why is it a bad thing to be banned from somewhere that everyone says is so awful? Is Twitter a necessity?

@ThumbWitchesAbroad
Couldn’t agree more:

@maudspellbody - “another one applauding your post - yes, absolutely all of that. I do not hate trans people (except the ones who want to punch/kill/rape women) but neither will I fall for this nonsense, wherein a man who looks like a man, dresses like a man, behaves like a man yet expects to be referred to as a woman thinks that he can make me believe that he is one. He's not. HE's a man - and the reactions this particular type of person has to being told they're not women just shows how male they still are.

Hoping that the tide is turning though.”

This in particular- neither will I fall for this nonsense, wherein a man who looks like a man, dresses like a man, behaves like a man yet expects to be referred to as a woman thinks that he can make me believe that he is one. and tells ME I’m not entitled to call myself what I am, a woman, or allows ME my safe spaces because they want it for themselves

Talking of toilets, it's all gone a bit meta in this Twitter thread by Ade Har rop twitter.com/AdrianHarrop/status/1275468545627914240
Screenshot of his posts at the start of the thread for those who don't have Twitter access, or can't see it.

How odd, usually men posting on FWR would be mocked with 'lo the menz have spoken' comments.

Only the men posting MRA anti-female bollocks, if you want to read around. There are few male regulars on FWR.

Goady fuckers never get very far, not saying you are one op I'm just saying generally debate is best had without insults. As the pp said grooming is associated with paedophilia so it will of course cause great offence.

Seriously?

You don't think it causes 'great offence' when there are men on Twitter openly saying they are minor attracted persons, and showing the age of the children to which they are attracted in their profiles? Desperate to shut down mumsnet?

Who do you think, exactly, are the kind of people who want to shutdown a parenting forum?

Why can't you just go and setup your own website instead of coming to a site that you have no place on , I come here to discuss Parenthood and topics relating to this, I do not want your transphobic comments here

Who belongs here and who doesn't isn't your decision, it's mumsnets. Go to the parenthood boards if you want to talk about parenthood. This is feminism chat. Where we don't have to limit our conversation to babies. And I absolutely support Glinners contribution here.

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