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Twitter has suspended me

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Glinner · 27/06/2020 03:16

I'm really sorry to barge in on you Mumsnettters with my problems, but
I've been finally suspended from Twitter and I have a feeling they're either going to ban me or just take my verified tick. I've submitted an appeal with Twitter and the Better Business Bureau but I thought I'd post here too so people knew what was going on.

Recently, I keep being locked out of my account and forced to delete tweets to get back in. The latest tactic by trans rights activists is to run a search for any time I've used the word 'groomer', a phrase Twitter recently decided was Not Allowed.

This was not a violation of Twitter's ToS at the time I used the phrase, and I have been careful to avoid it since. I still use the word 'grooming' in various permutations because I believe that gender ideology is a form of societal grooming. It is a very real threat to the wellbeing of women and children and if our ability to name a threat is removed, it is even more difficult to fight that threat.

You may remember that Twitter similarly removed Canadian feminist Meghan Murphy. She lost her account when she said "that's him" about 'Jessica' Yaniv. Bear in mind that Yaniv was still going under 'Jonathan' at the time, and just as in my case, her crime against Twitter's Terms of Service was not actually an offence at the time she committed it. She probably never thought she could be banned from the public square for uttering the words "that's him". But that's Twitter.

Twitter has a high percentage of trans-identified employees and for some time has been silencing feminists and their allies who run afoul of its absurd 'misgendering' policies. The one good thing about my situation is that I'm in great company--Claire Graham, Meghan Murphy, Skylar Gwynn, Miranda Yardley, GNC Centric and many more, important feminist and critical voices who have been silenced for fighting a dangerous ideology that tells children it's possible to be born into the wrong body.

Anyway, that's what's happening. Please let people know it's entirely down to malicious reporting from the usual suspects and please keep watching my YouTube Channel and visiting my depressing blog. I'll also be available on Glindr if people from Twitter want to re-establish contact there. Hope it's ok to post these links to those destinations

YouTube:
Glindr: glindr.org/home
Women are Important: glinner.co.uk/

Thanks for all the support, and thanks for letting me fight alongside you.

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ErrolTheDragon · 27/06/2020 15:16

Why can't you just go and setup your own website instead of coming to a site that you have no place on

He has, part of the purpose of his thread was precisely to let those of us who might be interested in it know where it is, rather than just dropping off Twitter into the void.

frenchonion · 27/06/2020 15:16

I welcome Glinner here. I don't post much but I read this board avidly. If you want to force me to accept a penis in my changing room, you can get to fuck if you think a decent male ally shouldn't be welcomed in here. Glinner's done wonders for the cause and I'm sure will continue to do so, along with a fuck ton of others, with or without Twitter.

maudspellbody · 27/06/2020 15:18

Lookat

I completely agree with you.
I honestly could have made my previous post several times longer, but wanted to start from the point of view of someone at the beginning of exploring this issue.

The reason I posted it at all is because I see women like the poster addressed, who say they are torn and 'see both sides' and want to take them by the hand and say 'it's ok to draw a line and it doesn't make you hateful'

It is an absolutely master stroke of the TRAs to shout 'hate' and 'bigotry' at women - because that is the last thing most of us want to be accused of. It's anathema. That and the comparisons to the struggles of the gay rights movement. I grew up in the 70s/80s with a gay DB who was trying to work out where he stood in the world. I am 100% pro gay rights and always have been. So that argument that 'being against us now is like being against the gay movement in the 80s' is really hurtful.

But I digress.

Yes - of course - you are right and many women feel uncomfortable sharing bathrooms with even the kind of transsexual I describe above. (I deliberately use that term, by the way, to differentiate from others under the 'trans umbrella') - and I also agree that they need a third space. The ones I have engaged with on the subject agree with that solution. They have no desire to make women uncomfortable either. They are a very quiet minority these days, unfortunately.

When I was about 10, I went into a bathroom in a restaurant and was greeted at the sinks by a rather tall transsexual woman. She tried to have a conversation with me. We were completely alone. I wasn't old enough to have been politically-corrected out of my self-preservation instincts, so I legged it. Would I want that to happen to my daughter? Nope.

So yes - you are right that there is a line to draw there and I only didn't before because I think - for some of the waverers who are still on the 'be kind at all costs' bus - it is a step that comes later. The realisation that, actually, being kind as we have been is still letting the wolf into the chicken shed comes later, I think.

My journey has been a drip, drip, drip.
It is almost too easy for people to try and persuade with the most shocking illustrations of the darkest sides of trans activism. Using Karen White and Yaniv as illustrations. Re-tweeting Fallon Fox and Aimee Challenor.

That works to an extent because people think 'what the fuck? That can't be right?!' And it begins the debate, but I think the debate needs to be on calmer ground. Those cases, rightly, engender visceral fear and disgust. But what we need to win over people standing where I stood about 2 years ago is more nuanced. It's saying 'you can still be one of the good guys and be true to yourself. It is ok to question and draw your boundaries.'

FliesandPies · 27/06/2020 15:22

Trans activists will never win, in the end they will dissolve in their own bile like all movements founded on hatred of others. I'll always be glad to see Glinner here or anywhere.

Highperbolay · 27/06/2020 15:28

Jesus Christ this is just getting crazy! That ridiculous screenshot of Glinner's 'confession' isn't even in the correct font. And people posting stuff on here and then screenshotting it to pass around on Twitter? It's just so pathetic, who are these utter saddos?!

Highperbolay · 27/06/2020 15:30

I can't believe what I am seeing to be honest!

corlan · 27/06/2020 15:31

Thank you for everything you have done Graham - I know it must have cost you dearly.
So many people have chosen to say nothing, turn their head and pretend they don't see what is happening. I welcome anyone here that has the courage to speak up.

justanotherneighinparadise · 27/06/2020 15:33

debate is best had without insults

Well I guess that’s us told on a thread where all the insults have come from incels off Twitter 🙄

ExoticEdna · 27/06/2020 15:33

'You don't think it causes 'great offence' when there are men on Twitter openly saying they are minor attracted persons, and showing the age of the children to which they are attracted in their profiles? '

Well yes men saying they are 'minor attracted persons' are clearly paedophiles.

Getting back to my point though the op has said elsewhere 'still use the word “grooming” in various permutations because I believe that gender ideology is a form of societal grooming'. In that context grooming is not the correct word and will cause offence.

As I said it isn't a case of having to be 'nice' but if you want to influence change then intelligence, not insults is needed.

maudspellbody · 27/06/2020 15:33

Fleetsum, that has broken my heart. I'm horrified that Allison Bailey's crowdfunder has been closed. Surely the amount of money she raised in such a short time shows how many feel she has been a victim of spectacular injustice.

Shame on them.

susandelgado · 27/06/2020 15:34

Thank you for all you do, Graham 👍🏻 Smile

7Days · 27/06/2020 15:35

Thanks Glinner.

Make sure you mind yourself as well.

maudspellbody · 27/06/2020 15:35

Exoticedna in what way is 'grooming' the wrong word in that context? What would be more accurate?

Datun · 27/06/2020 15:40

Getting back to my point though the op has said elsewhere 'still use the word “grooming” in various permutations because I believe that gender ideology is a form of societal grooming'. In that context grooming is not the correct word and will cause offence.

The word does not just relate to paedophiles. You groom someone for the Olympics.

Children are shown a cartoon spectrum with a Cinderella at one end and a GI Joe at the other and told to pick their inner identity on the basis of it. Depending on what they pick, they could have the wrong brain in the wrong body.

CPS guidance has recently told children that they could be committing a hate incident if they didn't accept trans children in their friendship circle.

Also girls are told they could be committing a hate incident if they didn't accept biological boys in their toilets.

By the CPS.

what do you call that?

YgritteSnow · 27/06/2020 15:41

You were banned for platform manipulation, though, according to Twitter. What might they mean by that?

Ooooh tell us! Tell us! Feels like you think you've got some kind of big "Gotcha!" so come on let's hear it Hmm

ExoticEdna · 27/06/2020 15:43

'Thank you for all you do, Graham'

Yes getting banned from Twitter for being unable to post within their guidelines is really useful. Well done Graham.

bellinisurge · 27/06/2020 15:43

Thank you for standing up publicly.
I'm afraid to put my name to the gc things I believe. I'm afraid to tell my work colleagues in case I get into trouble - public sector. I've walked away from conversations in pubs where people I was with started with "cis" and "terf" and that shit.
I feel like a coward for not speaking out.
Thank you.

Thinkingabout1t · 27/06/2020 15:43

You are very much appreciated by many of us, Graham. The storm of transtroll abuse reflects how consistently you have defended women's rights, child safeguarding and free speech. Thank you.

TopBitchoftheWitches · 27/06/2020 15:46

You men really need to look at yourselves. Can you not see that you are not helping your cause? 🤦

ListeningQuietly · 27/06/2020 15:47

Another middle aged woman piping up to say
Welcome Glinner
Keep up the good work

but please make some time to write again as I could watch shows you have written till the cows go far away

Thinkingabout1t · 27/06/2020 15:48

getting banned from Twitter for being unable to post within their guidelines is really useful

That'll be Twitter's amazingly elastic guidelines that allow endless threats and violent abuse aimed at women but ban someone for saying "he".

ItsSummer · 27/06/2020 15:48

@Tianalia

Why can't you just go and setup your own website instead of coming to a site that you have no place on , I come here to discuss Parenthood and topics relating to this, I do not want your transphobic comments here

Who belongs here and who doesn't isn't your decision, it's mumsnets. Go to the parenthood boards if you want to talk about parenthood. This is feminism chat. Where we don't have to limit our conversation to babies. And I absolutely support Glinners contribution here.

Well said

👏👏👏

ThumbWitchesAbroad · 27/06/2020 15:49

For anyone interested, this is a good article about the totalitarianism of trans rights activism uncommongroundmedia.com/the-rainbow-reich-transgender-ideology-and-totalitarianism-part-i/

Michelleoftheresistance · 27/06/2020 15:50

if you want to influence change then intelligence, not insults is needed.

Yet baseball bats wrapped in barbed wire, rape threats, death threats and appalling misogynist bile is the primary language of the group attempting to enforce their dominance over women.

I've never seen any GC post anywhere go anywhere near this kind of behaviour or personal abuse or completely unhinged vileness. I've seen vast amounts of scolding about how female people should be nicer and better behaved to this group when saying 'would you please not remove our legal rights?'

ExoticEdna · 27/06/2020 15:50

'The word does not just relate to paedophiles. You groom someone for the Olympics.'

Oh please stop being so disingenuous. You know full well grooming has more connotations with paedophilia than the Olympics. As I say if people want to use a platform to get their opinions across they have to be smarter than to use words more commonly associated with paedophilia.

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