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OldeMagick · 23/06/2020 20:03

Absolute bollocks. I didn't see anything like that on here at all.

Are you aware of this @Mumsnet?

OvaHere · 23/06/2020 20:10

Can someone who has read it summarise? I won't give them clicks.

CaraDune · 23/06/2020 20:11

Archived version, please! (I don't want to give Penis News clicks either.)

Dhalandchips · 23/06/2020 20:15

Just copied and pasted

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Mumsnet users threaten drag queen for wanting to read books to kids
Founder of Drag Queen Story Hour UK Aida H Dee, known off-stage as Sab Samuel. (Sab Samuel)

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A Drag Queen Story Hour UK event was cancelled Monday (June 22) after a coordinated campaign by Mumsnet users and various north England anti-trans networks that even received the apparent backing from a local councillor.

Following weeks of planning and talks with council administrators, Aida H Dee, the founder of Drag Queen Story Hour UK, was set to host an online reading workshop with Leeds Libraries on June 22.

But the event was dealt a devastating broadside by Mumsnet users who clogged Leeds City Council inboxes with emails demanding the Story Hour be shut down.

They won.

During the saga, Dee has been doxxed and had anti-trans individuals threaten her life, she claimed in an interview with PinkNews, which has left her emotionally rattled and with no choice but to seek safeguarding measures from the police.

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All for wanting to read picture books to children.

Drag Queen Story Hour UK being cancelled is a ‘kick in the face’ for LGBT+ youth, says founder.
The event, scheduled for 2pm, entered the radar of councillor Sarah Field. The Garforth and Swillington representative has ties with anti-trans groups.

She chaired a June 2019 meeting at Leeds Civic Hall, organised by “gender critical” group Leeds Spinners. At the meeting, according to transcripts, she said: “There is no such thing as living as a woman.

“We are women. And it is our female biology which makes us women. It is our sex.”

Field fired a volley of Facebook posts, shown in screenshots seen by PinkNews, asking for people to email their “concerns” about the event and levelled it as “shameless misogyny”.

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CaraDune · 23/06/2020 20:20

Doxxed by whom? And has this person any proof that this was in any way connected to mumsnet? (I'll answer that - no there won't be any proof, because no-one from here actually did anything like that. File under "things that didn't happen." Unless this person counts connecting publicly available information on their own twitter feed about their stage name and real-life male name.)

And what a stage name it is! Nastily disablist language wrapped up in a nice sequinned glittery bow. Can't think why any of the nest of vipers would object to their children sitting through that. It would be every bit as acceptable as taking your child to see Frankie Boyle... well, except that Frankie Boyle, when not being offensive about children with learning difficulties, can at least occasionally be funny.

LastRoloIsMine · 23/06/2020 20:21

Ffs he apparently woke up shaking after having a nightmare that mumnetters were going to break in to his house and murder him.

Pathetic.
Do not waste your time on this badly written woman hating crap.

Thingybob · 23/06/2020 20:26

There was a thread on here s few days ago so I guess that bit is correct. However I don't understand what they mean by doxxed and why are the police involved with safeguarding this adult? Safeguarding is about kids or vulnerable adults.

midgebabe · 23/06/2020 20:27

It's not impossible that someone posted that on MN. It is also not impossible that they posted it themselves to bring MN into disrepute. Since MN is pretty tough on really nasty comments, we shall never know

Bananabixfloof · 23/06/2020 20:29

shameless misogyny
Uhh but misogyny ain't a hate crime, cos who could be bothered to police that eh!

And frankly making so much noise about this makes it look weird.

Do you see big worldwide bands or singers having hissy fits when stuff like this happens? Not professional ones.
Either way gigs get cancelled all the time, having worked in the music entertainment business for a long time I know this for a fact. Am certain all the entertainment genres have the same issues. But anyway if a free gig, no big deal, if fees dues then aida should still be paid.

Trimazu · 23/06/2020 20:30

I am new and dont understand what going on? somone help

Z0rr0 · 23/06/2020 20:31

dealt a devastating broadside by Mumsnet users
lol
It was mentioned here, for sure. I can't think many MNers bother to 'clog' Council inboxes. Who would even know how to dox that guy? Or threaten him. (Despite PN calling Aida 'she' as her act, I thought pics implied he lives as a guy.)

Toseland · 23/06/2020 20:32

Utter hysterical nonsense. Safeguarding comes first regardless of anyone’s feelings.

IAmFleshIAmBone · 23/06/2020 20:38

Well that gave me a chuckle, waking in fear, thinking that mumsnetters were going to murder him...really Grin

DuDuDuLangaLangaBingBong · 23/06/2020 20:40

By ‘doxx’ do they mean ‘insist that checks are made into the background of anyone seeking to be around or otherwise influence children’?

Because that would make more sense (and if there was a thread about it, I missed it, sadly)

gardenbird48 · 23/06/2020 20:43

classic DARVO by the sound of it.... Deny the abuse ever took place, then Attack the victim for attempting to hold the abuser accountable; then they will lie and claim that they, the abuser, are the real victim in the situation, thus Reversing the Victim and Offender. Personally, I don't think it is remotely suitable to have a Drag Queen/adult entertainer reading to kids at story time (in character) and from the facebook page, there were some safeguarding issues such as close contact etc with the kids. Mumsnetters are getting accused of all sorts atm - apparently being mean to a trans woman in the Stevenage branch of The Body Shop of all places!!! (they don't have a store in Stevenage btw)

Thingybob · 23/06/2020 20:46

Very confusing article. Why do they start of using female pronouns for this drag queen but change to male half way through

OvaHere · 23/06/2020 20:47

Isn't the actual story here that this drag queen posted sexually inappropriate (for children) things on their open FB profile they use for all work?

I'm personally of the opinion that all DQST isn't suitable for children but if you are a performer doing these then at least have the common sense to have a separate child friendly drag persona and media to the one you have for nightclub gigs.

Not even the bare minimum safeguarding seems to be considered in these ventures.

WinterIsGone · 23/06/2020 20:49

The article itself links to this Mumsnet thread:
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/a3945350-Leeds-Library-hosts-Drag-Queen-Story-Hour-on-June-22nd

Xanthangum · 23/06/2020 20:51

To be fair, a lot of the objections were to do with Sabs jokey memes, openly available on his social media, this one for example.

I was on that thread. No one has a problem with funny people entertaining kids by reading books with them. It's the inappropriate crossover from kids to Adults - no, Adult content - that's the problem.

Is this true....
gardenbird48 · 23/06/2020 20:52

in other 'is this true?' the Australian Academy of Science, for their Women in STEM programme have now defined woman as: "anyone who identifies as a woman, including cisgender (personal gender identity corresponds with sex assigned at birth) and transgender (personal gender identity does not correspond with sex assigned at birth) it also extends to intersex and non-binary individuals." I am a bit mystified as to why they list intersex (always either male or female (nothing to do with trans) and non-binary - they don't identify as either so why put them in with a rather crowded 'women' category? This is true btw. :¬(

merrymouse · 23/06/2020 20:54

Presumably the library accepted that somebody should not use a persona designed for adult entertainment (i.e. with an adult orientated social media presence) to entertain young children.

merrymouse · 23/06/2020 20:58

X posted with Xanthagum.

Even worse - a persona with an adult orientated social media account that posts sexualised pictures of children’s tv characters.

OldCrone · 23/06/2020 20:59

A Drag Queen Story Hour UK event was cancelled

It wasn't cancelled.

www.facebook.com/events/370556007398038/?active_tab=discussion

Xanthangum · 23/06/2020 21:02

You might want to start a whole new post for that piece of information @gardenbird48

And reflect on how the world might react if they had a 'People of Colour in STEM' programme. Or Muslims, or Jewish people, or disabled people or any other minority, and then said we welcome anyone who identifies as such.

Haveastock · 23/06/2020 21:02

The crucify bit is a huge misinterpretation (deliberate or not?) of the following comment on the person’s Drag Name. As it stands it doesn’t say what they’re saying it says and it’s actually meant to say ‘anyone ELSE would be crucified’

‘I'm sorry but anyone also mocking ADHD would be crucified. Why do they get a pass? It's highly inappropriate. All of it.‘

So many times words are twisted in an hysterical way. Is it lack of comprehension skills or just plain shit-stirring?

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