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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Munroe and the Barroness

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DeRigueurMortis · 23/06/2020 17:56

Sorry for the fail link....

Baroness Nicholson is reported to Lords Commissioner for Standards
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Kit19 · 23/06/2020 18:01

I’d love to know what standards MB thinks the baroness has breached

www.parliament.uk/documents/lords-commissioner-for-standards/HL-Code-of-Conduct.pdf

Not agreeing with TRA is not on there 😆

DeRigueurMortis · 23/06/2020 18:01

Extract:

[[http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/j-k-rowling/index.html
JK Rowling]]'s charity co-founder Baroness Nicholson has been reported to the Lord's Commissioner for Standards over claims she bullied a British transgender model she called a 'weird creature'.

The politician is thought to have made the comments on Twitter about Munroe Bergdorf, an outspoken advocate for social justice.

In another, now deleted tweet, Baroness Nicholson also misgenders the model and claims it was a typing error, as reported by PinkNews.

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boatyardblues · 23/06/2020 18:05

Another Streisand Effect case in the making.

RadicalFern · 23/06/2020 18:08

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DeRigueurMortis · 23/06/2020 18:09

No it's not clear is it Kit....

MB seems to be encouraging their Twitter followers to report also.

I can't help but think these types of pile on's do the trans cause a disservice - especially when they are so often accompanied by really nasty tweets such as JKR experienced.

I might not be in favour of sharing female spaces with biological men but I'm even more certain I don't want to allow men who disagree with me and suggest I suck their lady dick to share them.

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JemimaShore · 23/06/2020 18:13

and sharing transphobic memes featuring abuse that I received three years ago, reframed as if I said it myself.'

Munroe is lying. We all know Munroe tweeted a woman calling her a "hairy dyke with a barren womb."

Among other things - including saying "I want to gaybash him" about a gay man, trying to forbid women from mentioning female biology on the Women's March, and encouraging private messaging with vulnerable minors (the reason Munroe was let go from the NSPCC).

Stop trying to silence women, Munroe.

FantaOra · 23/06/2020 18:14

That's going to be interesting as misgendering has about the same same weight as typos in the real world. The whole thing just makes me laugh now, especially as my gay male friends refer to gay men they don't like as she or girl.

Bergdorf shouldn't take themselves so seriously, if they and other identitifarians didn't have this obsession with micro managing everyone's perception of them half this bollocks would go away.

DeRigueurMortis · 23/06/2020 18:19

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FantaOra · 23/06/2020 18:22

😂

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StealthPolarBear · 23/06/2020 18:36

So saying anything that's not out and out fawning is bullying now?
As others have pointed out munroe may not want to throw stones

StealthPolarBear · 23/06/2020 18:37

Ps how does one know which gender to use for others? Do I need to check each day? Hour?
Ps for clarity I am a woman and always will be. Feel free to use the pronouns that are associated with that in the English language.

SarahTancredi · 23/06/2020 18:39

Does this mean I can complain to the CJS when they sent me a letter addressed to Mr Tancredi?

DeRigueurMortis · 23/06/2020 18:43

I must admit being perplexed by MB in the sense they keep landing these high profile roles - then losing them as people point out some of their previous poor behaviour and comments.

It's not as if this information is hard to find.

There just seems to be a total blind spot re: due diligence in some companies/organisations on this subject.

Especially as they (having made some extremely homophobic comments) keep being signed up as an LGBT rep.

Maybe it should be TBGL - Trans beats Gays and Lesbians....

(To clarify I'm using "beats" not in the sense of physical violence but "top trumps").

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StealthPolarBear · 23/06/2020 18:47

Due whatty dence?

StealthPolarBear · 23/06/2020 18:47

:o

JemimaShore · 23/06/2020 19:01

The Baroness has been on the case about the paedo stuff Asda sent out, and M&S etc - and she has links to JK Rowling's charity - so yes of course all the TRAs are going to go for her.

We are living through some sort of fucked up Cultural Revolution right now - people being publicly denounced. That whole Mail article is about the public denouncing of women by TRAs for saying (what they think) is the wrong thing.

Gibbonsgibbonsgibbons · 23/06/2020 19:10

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ScrimpshawTheSecond · 23/06/2020 19:11

I'm always baffled that Munroe and that stripe of activist is so keen to draw attention to the outrageously awful things that they've said in the past, where most people would surely do their best to let these things sink into oblivion.

vivariumvivariumsvivaria · 23/06/2020 19:12

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HandsOffMyRights · 23/06/2020 19:16

Desperation.

I'm sure many arrogant, bullish men have tried to silence intelligent and gutsy women like the Baroness, but she outclasses them in every way.

Datun · 23/06/2020 19:39

TRAs are desperate to get Baroness Nicholson suspended from Twitter. She has a voice and significant power.

She must be silenced.

Unfortunately for TRAs the wheels are well and truly off and hurtling down the hill.

It's too late to shut people up. And attempting to do so, or even succeeding, with Baroness Nicholson, will backfire.

Anything now is at best, a Pyrrhic victory and at worst, complete annihilation of their arguments.

FantaOra · 23/06/2020 19:50

mobile.twitter.com/MunroeBergdorf/status/1275456440711483392?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

It gets more ridiculous by the hour. Booker is sanctioning transphobia by not slagging off the Baroness.

Give it a rest.

DeRigueurMortis · 23/06/2020 19:55

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