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Bunbury's guide to community disruptors part 5

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ItsLateHumpty · 20/06/2020 15:04

The useful Bunbury Guide to Spotting Community Disruptors is constantly evolving.

The best research and advice is not to engage with community disruptors and trolls. As ever, if you suspect troll activity, report it to MNHQ.

Remember our monitors would like to silence us by fair means or foul.

This is a continuation of the Public Service Announcement thread:

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3691023-Bunburys-guide-to-community-disruptors-part-4

If and when you see threads plopped into FWR, especially a curious repeat of well worn topics, maybe check for poster history before engaging. AS is your friend.

There are a number of posts/posters/threads that are reproduced on Twitter or Facebook to foment controversy using screen shots & flagging to either MNHQ to have threads or posters deleted.. Sometimes, it’s used to approach commissioning editors with ideas for articles. It’s a tiresome tactic that we always have community disruptor posters who themselves post the comments that they then highlight elsewhere as purported evidence of racism, religious intolerance, anti-men sentiments, or transphobia.

Some helpful links can be found in the ‘Break it Down for me’ and ‘It never happens’ threads but in essence FermatsTheorem recommended “that in the absence of a block/hide poster button, I suggest the following strategy (given that you're talking to the lurkers).

Do not name check the sealion. Instead, respond to a depersonalised paraphrase:

"It is sometimes erroneously suggested that blah. Blah is wrong for the following reasons (short and pithy). If you need more information re. debunking blah, here's a link."

Then (this next step is important to combat derailment) go back up thread to the last useful contribution to the discussion, make sure you do name check that contributor, and pick up the discussion from that point.”

Go well Witches Gin

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bishopgiggles · 15/08/2020 10:42

@Thelnebriati

I'm getting increasingly irritated at the refusal to deal with trolls and derailers, followed by the removal of entire threads due to the posts made by trolls and derailers.
I have contacted MN about one example, essentially asking if mnhq see it as part of their moderation role to do anything about this (if posts are reported that may not seem, on their own, to be that bad but when clearly displaying a repeated pattern of derailing and attempted bunfight-starting and constant trying to get every thread to discuss a different topic, over a period of months or years) or whether it's up to the community to ignore/ debate (my preference is to ignore!) with mods staying out of it. Genuine question and partly why we have this thread, surely?
RufustheSniggeringReindeer · 15/08/2020 10:44

Rufus and Littl are quiet, etc etc

Well thats a first! Although my friends get concerned if I’m quiet in real life

Distracted in my case...plus sometimes what you want to say you know will get deleted, even if it is carefully and thoughtfully written

I’m not name changing and I’m not letting some halfwit get me banned

ArabellaScott · 15/08/2020 10:50

I was quite pleased mine was available, too, Albus!

RufustheSniggeringReindeer · 15/08/2020 10:50

But i can say that because I don’t say much

Partly cos I’m just not as clever, on the ball or knowledgable as a lot of the women one here

RufustheSniggeringReindeer · 15/08/2020 10:51

Oh one last thing

Its so fucking transparent when a longtime poster is being targeted

And if i can see it...I don’t understand why MNHQ can’t

Mollscroll · 15/08/2020 11:19

bat photo
It was this. Randomly posted if you wrote something a bit batty. This was long before the current shitshow - much happier days. Maybe we should repurpose it for moments when we know the bat signal has gone out.

Totally agree that MNHQ are apparently being played. I wonder if we can ask for reports about how many posts, by individual, get reported. I wonder if MNHQ keep those stats. Bet they don’t and I bet they’d tell the story.

Bunbury's guide to community disruptors part 5
TinselAngel · 15/08/2020 11:21

I'm finding FWR a hostile environment at the moment due to the influx of shall we say, trans widow's ex's, since Redditt took away r/gendercritical and they had to find another group of women to goad.

midclegs · 15/08/2020 11:26

Can I ask, does being a MN paid up
Subscriber get you a bit more info from MNHQ on strikes etc?

Floisme · 15/08/2020 11:29

I wonder if we can ask for reports about how many posts, by individual, get reported. I wonder if MNHQ keep those stats.
I think that, when Lang was banned, HQ posted some stats concerning the number of reports they'd received about her in recent months. It was a very interesting pattern as I recall.

FloresTorres · 15/08/2020 12:37

Talking of bats.....
I see that the cricket is rained off again.
Double swizz.

FloresTorres · 15/08/2020 12:39

midclegs
No. No privileges re modding. Speaking first hand.

highame · 15/08/2020 12:42

😂😂😂 Love you lot

FloresTorres · 15/08/2020 12:50

Moll Grin

Memo to self. Must do better on name changes. These women are in another league to you Flores.

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 15/08/2020 12:50

if posts are reported that may not seem, on their own, to be that bad but when clearly displaying a repeated pattern of derailing and attempted bunfight-starting and constant trying to get every thread to discuss a different topic, over a period of months or years

I'm sure when it were all fields around here, MN mods used to be pretty good at taking the time to look at the context of posts or consider a post as part of a series / pattern.

Less so now.

AlbusSirius · 15/08/2020 14:11

I've realised that the mh thread hasn't actually been deleted but "taken down while we have a look at it".

What does that mean, in practice? Will it be reinstated (sieve-like, obviously) on Monday morning?

RufustheSniggeringReindeer · 15/08/2020 14:26

@AlbusSirius

I've realised that the mh thread hasn't actually been deleted but "taken down while we have a look at it".

What does that mean, in practice? Will it be reinstated (sieve-like, obviously) on Monday morning?

Depends

Sometimes ‘looked at’ threads dont come back 🥺

CorvusPurpureus · 15/08/2020 15:38

It was about time, anyway. Suspect dodgy ex was on to me.

ItsLateHumpty · 15/08/2020 15:47

You’re all looking so very pretty in your shiny new names Grin

Rufus it’s not because you’re noisy that you’re missed. It’s because you’re sane (mostly 😂) and a calm voice (more mostly 😂)

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ErrolTheDragon · 15/08/2020 16:23

I'm not name changing, this name is too good for a Sir TP fan to mothball. I have one or two others but I keep them almost entirely for comic effect if apt.

ItsLateHumpty · 15/08/2020 16:26

It’s ok ErrolTheDragon you’re still pretty - give us a twirl luv!

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ErrolTheDragon · 15/08/2020 16:33
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Iminthewrongstory · 15/08/2020 17:08

I just dashed to Bunbury to reread the wise community disruptor advice. And for a cream bun and cup of tea.

Must step back.

RufustheSniggeringReindeer · 15/08/2020 17:12

It’s because you’re sane (mostly 😂) and a calm voice (more mostly 😂

Ooooo lots of firsts

I thank you

PersonWithFeelings · 15/08/2020 20:41

Hiiiii, name changer here too, although I haven't been around for a while, I've been dipping in and out for years. I have to leave whenever it's making me too cross otherwise I drink too much. Loving your work x

Judashascomeintosomemoney · 15/08/2020 21:26

Err, sorry, should probably know, but what’s the protocol here? Mention Bunbury on the problem thread, or don’t comment on the problem thread and come straight here instead? Just pondering re the ‘My Niece has to call everyone They’ thread, or somesuch.