Superdrug person who menstruate

[Womanwhobleeds]

Never posted on this board before, but nervous, but I’m furious.
Just bought some towels from Superdrug and the first line on the back of the packet is ‘A person who menstruates..’ I’m a woman ffs!
I shop in Superdrug all the time for their cruelty free stuff but no more!

Oh for fucks sake 😤 I Absobloodylutely do mind being referred to as a person who menstruates. I am a woman as is every other person who menstruates and it pisses me off that my biological reality has to be denied because a tiny minority of the population have gender dysphoria. This is not the way to support trans people, this just angers women and sets women and trans people against each other. Some people have periods, those people are, and have always been, women. Deal with it Superdrug or you will be losing my custom 😤🔥🤬

@FlamingoAndJohn

SOME PEOPLE WHO WERE BORN FEMALE BUT IDENTIFY AS MALE STILL GET PERIODS.

And some people who were born male but identify as female still need to shave their faces. I don’t see Gillette having the slogan ‘the best a person who shaves can get’.
This is why we get pissed off. It’s not so much the removal of the word woman but more the double standard. Men are not having the word men removed but women are.
All our lives women are taught to change our behaviour so men can carry on with theirs. We are fed up with it.

THIS!

I get it now!
"People who menstruate" doesn't bother me at all, but this does!
What's good for the goose, right?

I can choose to be a man? Really? Who would believe that? How could I achieve that without harming my health? I would like to have a higher metabolic rate, string muscles, flat chest, strong voice....

Not all women menstruate

But all people that menstruate ARE WOMEN!!!

I’m as frustrated as everyone about elements of this big "debate", but honestly this isn't the bit to get hung up on.

I disagree. I think men taking away the word for woman is extremely powerful and worth fighting over.

Is this to be inclusive of trans men? Is that the thinking behind this phrase? Sorry to be unaware. I’ve been following the JKR story and this is the only sense I can make of it.

Menstruation is a biological process, everything to do with your sex and nothing to do with your gender identity. Girls need to learn that they menstruate, not because they are people but because they are female.

There is nothing kind or inclusive about denying women and girls the language to discuss their sex-based experiences. Words matter - we use them to think.

But Menstruating People's Lives Matter is not a misogynist response to Women's Lives Matter.

Of course not. It's only women and girls.

@Kit19

Women and girls are the people who can’t afford pads around the world

And having their ability to work outside the home and therefore have independence from men because of it.

You cant compare a job that both sexes do and therefor shouldnt be named as if only men can do it. With products aimed at women for specifically female functions who refuse to name who they are for and cant possibly be used by men, because men are pissed off about it.

Entirely different scenarios

Goodbye Superdrug, i am now an female ex customer. I was on your site earlier today and have just left a basket waiting for me to finalise the order before paying, it came to £44 , i wont be going through with the order. Bye

Since TRAs are increasingly encouraging young people to view it as a sort of pick and mix can I have just the higher metabolic rate and maybe the increased lung capacity?

(Spoilers - no, I can't, and neither can anyone else. In reality if I was to take testosterone the impact on my health would be negative overall.)

@jelly I think you're putting words in my mouth there arent we?

No. We want to be described as women, and you are telling us that we cannot be, even telling us that this has no impact upon our lives.

Um...... yes, female to men trans can still menstruate, why would you think they couldn't?

Er, because many take cross sex hormones and have hysterectomies? It's a perfectly reasonable assumption if you don't know much about this issue.

@threesmallcows

My local coffee shop labels their jar 'Gingerbread Person'.

I kid you not. As a sad, tiny act of rebellion, I always ask them for a gingerbread man.

I agree with that as there is nothing that makes that person shaped biscuit a man or a woman.

This is not the way to support trans people, this just angers women and sets women and trans people against each other. Some people have periods, those people are, and have always been, women

On these boards, it's always that people say they have issues with safety from trans women, this is what bothers them.
Safety, same sex spaces.
This, though, it's not a safety issue at all - it literally does not affect me at all if someone wants to identify as a man.
I say let them crack on.
Doesn't make me any less of a woman. All this talk of erasure is so bizarre, I'm still me.
My identity isn't going anywhere.

Wouldn't saying "for women and transmen" be less offensive all round, more obvious and more comfortable to a preteen on her first period and easier to spell than saying "for people who menstruate"

can't see how a word which has no impact on anyone's life who was born a woman and continues to identify as a woman

But I can’t continue to identify as a women, because I don’t identify with a group that includes males. I can’t change that anymore than a trans person can change how they identify. So in accommodating one party you have literally taken my identity as a woman away.

My god, what sort of a person are you that you feel entitled to take someone’s identity away?

Your job may go nowhere too if the board of directors is half men and half transwomen so they feel they dont need to do anything with their equality situation.

Your request for a pay raise will go nowhere too and is counted in the pay gap surveys which prove women arent being paid less....

They can choose to be whatever they wish to be

But that's not true is it? You can't choose to be a different age, race, or species, and then just shout that you are that thing and anyone who doesn't agree is a transphobic bigot. It only applies to being a man or woman, it seems. Oh and also women can't identify as a woman on the basis of biology, and demand for that identity to be respected.

Why is that then, do you think? How is it that the only thing that is OK, according to woke dogma, is the thing that ends up reinforcing age-old sex-based inequality and shitting on women? Hmmmmm...

Pay rise go no where if a TW gets paid the same as the men but then makes the pay gap appear to disappear ...

Wet hands sorry

No people do not go on about the safety risk posed by transwomen ( except in prisons when rape if involved )

They may go on about how self identification means that any man can pretend and we would no longer be able to rely on societal pressure to keep that dangerous ...not trans...man out of female spaces

They may also go on about how the Male presence affects them mentally as a result of the trauma they have

Please read more carefully

Please don't interpret everything through a lens of nasty women having a go at transwomen

Your job may go nowhere too if the board of directors is half men and half transwomen so they feel they dont need to do anything with their equality situation

Why would trans women being on the board make your job go nowhere?
Isn't it as the law stands that they're women? So would be treated as women, why would that affect biological women's job prospects?
We'd all still be treated as women, surely,

Baffled that you seem to have an issue with being called "a person"

I don't want to buy sanitary towels for people who menstruate either. I want to buy female products designed for women, because let's face it, if a towel was really designed to be genderless, it wouldn't fit properly.

There has to be better language - perhaps "women and trans men"? "People" doesn't give a gender identity to women or to trans men, so it doesn't really satisfy either. I understand completely that someone who no longer identifies as a female does not want to be referred to as a woman, but there has to be a better way of being inclusive.

Personally, I think we need a new multi-gendered word to describe women and trans men, exactly for situations like these. I don't think we have the right words yet, and that's what causes the anxiety rather than the actions.

I think if you still have a womb, you need to be able to refer to that biological fact somehow, so there's going to have to be an element of distress in getting that truth across. You might prefer to called a man than a trans man, but that doesn't explain why you menstruate; sometimes you are going to need to refer to yourself in a way that explains you have female parts.

Yeah, I still haven't got any further than "women and trans men." It seems the least upsetting to all parties based on the available words we have.