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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Celeb supporters of jkr

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RyanBergarasTeeth · 12/06/2020 15:00

Can we have a thread on celebs that have come out with supportive messages for jk rowling? The ones i have seen so far:

Jonathan Ross (although a shit house scared of his daughters)
Robert webb
David baddiel
Kirsty Alsopp

Any others?

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TheCountessofFitzdotterel · 13/06/2020 09:28

Melissa Harrison? I am delighted to hear it - All Among The Barley was brilliant, one of the best books I have read all year. Thoroughly recommend.

pachyderm · 13/06/2020 09:41

Aidan Comerford is unbelievably creepy and deranged. A while ago he wrote a short story that was supposed to be a sympathetic account of a woman remembering a sexual assault. But it ended up sounding more like a pervy rape fantasy and even some of his woke friends backed off from him. I don't think he has any real friends in Ireland any more, and he just casts his net all over Twitter hoping that someone famous will respond to him. I was dismayed to see Alison Moyet answer him, honestly Alison, not worth it!

merrymouse · 13/06/2020 09:54

Also would ther be any point in lobbying certain people such as Greta Thunberg or Caitlin Moran?

I'm wary of putting pressure on people to join a team.

All I want is for people to agree that there is a discussion to be had - that we should be able to talk about women's rights without abuse or risk to livelihood.

Justhadathought · 13/06/2020 09:55

Outside of twitter most people don't have a clue about what is going on. That is why when articles do appear in newspapers the general public wonders what on earth all of this 'fuss' is about.

The ideological take-over has meant that there has been no real public discussion or awareness of the issues; and that extends, for example, to male crimes being reported in newspapers as female crimes. It also means that there is no awareness of what the GRA is or what it implies.

People are also unaware of what is going on in schools, or the guidance being given to many other children's and youth organisations. People really are oblivious.

When you spend a lot of time on twitter, you exist in relatively narrow circles....and it must be tempting to think the whole country is aware of the issues you speak of.

I don't even know, for example, who this Jameela person is, or Adrian Comerford. Who are they? What do they do? How would I know of them? I guess one of the main problems we have is that young people, especially, exist on & through social media. They don't look at or read mainstream news. They exist in carefully chosen social worlds of their own fancy. It totally trivialises and tribalises political debate

merrymouse · 13/06/2020 10:05

I don't even know, for example, who this Jameela person is, or Adrian Comerford.

Jameela Jamil is most famous for acting in 'The Good Place', and has a huge following on twitter. Enthusiastic adopter of causes, but told by her followers to 'educate' herself with relative frequency.

eu.usatoday.com/story/entertainment/celebrities/2019/10/09/mark-ruffalo-more-stars-slam-ellen-degeneres-support-george-bush/3926734002/

No idea what Adrian Comerford does off twitter, or whether he has the time to do anything else.

TheProdigalKittensReturn · 13/06/2020 10:06

I'm another one who has no idea who this Comerford bloke is. He hasn't made the best impression so far.

Justhadathought · 13/06/2020 10:16

Jameela Jamil is most famous for acting in 'The Good Place', and has a huge following on twitter. Enthusiastic adopter of causes, but told by her followers to 'educate' herself with relative frequency

eu.usatoday.com/story/entertainment/celebrities/2019/10/09/mark-ruffalo-more-stars-slam-ellen-degeneres-support-george-bush/3926734002/

Wow! That article about Degeneres friendship with George Bush and the various hostile responses to it is quite something.I honestly despair for the years to come, in terms of public discourse, and sense it is only going to get even more febrile than it already is.

Smellbellina · 13/06/2020 10:22

Has anyone posted anything on facebook and received any backlash.

I commented on a post from a friend congratulating DR and calling JK transphobic. Now I am being educated...

SirSamuelVimesBlackboardMonito · 13/06/2020 10:26

I got a spew of rage from an ex student. All the buzzwords. I skim read it to the point where she said she was deleting me and simply wished her well.

Collidascope · 13/06/2020 10:27

I don't think she's been mentioned on here but I'm fairly sure the author Linda Grant has spoken out in favour of women and girls' rights in the past with regards to trans activism. I'm not sure if she's said anything on this though.
Kate Long is another author who has spoken out on this.

Goodiewhemper · 13/06/2020 10:27

Evanna Lynch (Luna Lovegood) posted in support of JK yesterday. She said that while she didn't agree with her views, JK was her friend and a good person who has done lots of good for children, charities etc. She go so much abuse she deleted her Twitter account.

Ninkanink · 13/06/2020 10:28

The problem is that whilst Twitter is a woke cesspit of shitty and nonsensical screeching, what happens there does to some extent potential drive what happens IRL. So whilst it’s easy to say oh it doesn’t matter, you need to think of it as a Trojan horse of sorts. We can’t allow it to go unchallenged.

We reside in real life, where absolute principles like biological fact and material reality do still rule when it comes down to it. That definitely is always to our advantage. But we still cannot afford to be complacent.

AbiBrown · 13/06/2020 10:29

@deepwatersolo totally agree with you. That's about the only issue I agree with her on and I'm sad Glen Greenwald has taken this stance as you said.

SirSamuelVimesBlackboardMonito · 13/06/2020 10:31

Well done Evanna. That was genuinely very brave.

The cynical part of me suspects that the ones who will support / say nothing are the ones who didnt make millions off the series and now make money by doing the conventions, making appearances at the Universal Studios theme park, etc. So Lynch, the twins who played the Weasley twins, maybe Matthew Lewis (Neville).

TheProdigalKittensReturn · 13/06/2020 10:33

Is Greenwald possibly an example of a man using this issue to settle a score against a woman he already disliked?

Wearywithteens · 13/06/2020 10:38

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merrymouse · 13/06/2020 10:40

People are also unaware of what is going on in schools, or the guidance being given to many other children's and youth organisations. People really are oblivious.

Not for much longer if the Baroness has anything to do with it!

Ninkanink · 13/06/2020 10:46

Yes...

And girl guides, NSPCC...

Oxyiz · 13/06/2020 10:53

I'm surprisingly disappointed in Ricky. I thought he got it and saw what was going on.

However I guess has a successful show on Netflix at the moment and has probably been ordered to keep quiet.

Wearywithteens · 13/06/2020 11:10

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merrymouse · 13/06/2020 11:23

Ricky Gervais didn’t explicitly mention JKR in his Friday night video but I felt that his whole ‘rant’ (his word) about hate was alluding to it.

I agree, but I think he was also making a wider point about everyone having to subscribe to a dogma, regardless of the issue.

BingBongSong · 13/06/2020 11:27

@RyanBergarasTeeth

Has anyone posted anything on facebook and received any backlash. Ive seen a few anti jkr posts on my Facebook but the supportive things i have put have fully been ignored. No ones even tried to fight me for once.
I put JK Rowling's essay on my FB and got 11 likes, which is unheard of for any GC stuff I normally post! Also a few comments from friends who are new to the discussion. I attached Boodleoops's Medium piece with the Twitter screen shots which helped for clarity.

One friend has posted something disagreeing with the Sun article, saying "whatever you think of JKR's views etc.", and she's had a few "I hate JKR's transphobic BS" responses, so I've posted Boodleoops's screen shots again, asking where the hate for trans people is in JKR's tweets. Makes me anxious to think what may have been written in response so not returning to FB today.

Oh, I also posted Suzanne Moore's piece for the Telegraph and got a few likes for that too. My fb is mostly middle aged women though.

PurpleCrowbarWhereIsLangCleg · 13/06/2020 11:36

I got quite a few likes for the JK essay, which I followed up with the boodleoops piece.

No attempts at educating me yet - there's one FB friend who usually can't resist shouting TWAW at me, & even he's not had a go.

Two years ago I used to get a howling mob - & quite a few people deleted me.

The tide is definitely turning.

Helmetbymidnight · 13/06/2020 11:53

on my fb page all is fine, but when i ventured onto another it was all 'this kills' 'this is dangerous' and 'transwomen are getting murdered.because of her' i tentatively stuck my head in but was told to 'be careful' and then tagged in links from tra's all saying the same thing 'she's killing me' etc etc

Helmetbymidnight · 13/06/2020 11:56

many of the same people on fb who are screaming at jkr/women for being transphobic and exclusionary, prejudiced etc are the same people arguing very nicely that black lives matter and talking eloquently how all lives matter is not the point at this time.

Confused