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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

The Body Shop has fallen

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Cismyfatarse1 · 10/06/2020 19:05

Just seen this on Twitter.

For those who like their Ginger Shampoo, can I suggest MooGoo.

Also, Aveeno is a good replacement for their Shea butter.

Other thoughts welcome. Feel free to suggest other ideas.

The Body Shop has fallen
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AyeRobot · 10/06/2020 21:58

Seasidetrains You can, along with all your fellow gender followers, crack on with prioritising the gender of people. The rest of us who recognise that that sex is the reason for discrimination of women, with gender being the mechanism, will continue to centre women in our feminism.

Hilarious that any retailer would alienate the very people that spend money on their product when we are heading into a recession. Bye bye 👋

Seasidetrains · 10/06/2020 21:58

also i can't figure out how to make things bold apparently.

FantaOra · 10/06/2020 21:59

No one has a woman-ness located anywhere. You are on a feminist board. Get a grip.

Crazycatlady83 · 10/06/2020 21:59

How do you decide what sex is defined by?

That will be the XX chromosome .... HTH

Willow2017 · 10/06/2020 22:00

they don't blindly follow jk rowling in belitting trans people

Oh get your facts right or would that spoil your 'cause'?
JK has never belittled trans-people quite the opposite in fact if you even bothered to read her tweets.

LookAtTheCahhOlivahhhhh · 10/06/2020 22:01

Gender is the stereotype that women like pink and skirts, and men like cars and blue.

Sex is the actual differences between males and females. The differences between their chromosomes, genitals, and the differences which become more apparent as we grow: average height, strength, ability to produce small or large gametes.

You cannot change your sex, and women and girls deserve dignity in having their own spaces and rights. Women cannot rape, they do not have a penis.
That does not mean that they are men without penises, a penectomy does not turn a man into a woman.

Is that simple enough for you, @Seasidetrains?

FantaOra · 10/06/2020 22:02

" the 1930s you couldn't choose with such freedom which gender you identify with, and now you can."

This language of identity has been invented by men to explain their transvestitism in a way that it can be sold to gullible people as a human right.

Seasidetrains · 10/06/2020 22:02

@AllTheUsernamesAreAlreadyTaken

You seem to be confused about the difference between sex and gender. You’re conflating the two. Perhaps have a little read up and then return.
lol i know the difference between sex and gender thanks. i'm pointing out that referring only to sex is not, as far as i can see, a very useful way of defining a person.
Inkpaperstars · 10/06/2020 22:03

Several family members who use body shop will never countenance the idea again! I am relieved in the sense that I never liked the perfume one of them wore.

I thought when I saw the thread title they had gone bust.

CheerfuIPotato · 10/06/2020 22:03

@Seasidetrains your womanness resides in the fact you’re a woman. HTH.

JemimaShore · 10/06/2020 22:04

The TRA's seem to be riled tonight. Hmmm

Ha - let's see if they put their money where their mouth is....tell me, do Body Shop sell beard products? All the twitter woke bros sending abuse to JK seem to have beards...

NoraEphronsneck · 10/06/2020 22:06

Wouldn't it be fun to go in there once they reopen, pile up your basket, let them ring it through till and then say no thanks and tell them why Grin

It has been an awful day from all quarters - so disappointed in Jeremy Vine on 5 - three guests and not one would go against the ideology - it was a masterclass in how to say nothing at all. Then This Morning and then again on Loose Women.

MrsNoah2020 · 10/06/2020 22:06

most of my opinions on this topic have come from feeling my own gender identitiy evolve as i get older, and also from having kids and seeing how poorly the characteristics of 'male' and 'female' describe people in all their complexity.

All of us who are GC would agree that male & female characteristics do not define people in their entirety. Sex does, however, determine many of our life experiences, both biological ones (pregnancy etc) and social. A girl cannot escape FGM or forced marriage by identifying as male.

SugarMiceInTheRain · 10/06/2020 22:06

Won't be buying stuff from there again then.

AyeRobot · 10/06/2020 22:07

Seasidetrains Whilst you're here, can you explain why gender is more important than sex for you?

MorrisZapp · 10/06/2020 22:07

The Body Shop jumped the shark yonks ago. Superdrug quality at Clarins prices. They can leap head first in the bin. Sainsbury's do a fab satsuma range for cheap as fuck anyway.

Anotherlovelybitofsquirrel · 10/06/2020 22:08

@LookAtTheCahhOlivahhhhh

Yes yes yes! Excellent post 💕

Pluckedpencil · 10/06/2020 22:08

@Seasidetrains, the bit that you can't see that you therefore suspect isn't there is called the XX chromosome.

Otterseatpuffinsdontthey · 10/06/2020 22:10

Q

Jkslays · 10/06/2020 22:11

I think Body Shop have taken the post down!

Ihaventgottimeforthis · 10/06/2020 22:12

So fucking snide.
I hope they read her piece and feel ashamed.

AyeRobot · 10/06/2020 22:12

Seasidetrains Actually, I think what I'm asking is how are your feminist goals advanced by promoting gender over sex?

Jkslays · 10/06/2020 22:14

Ignore me! Strong painkillers Blush

MrsNoah2020 · 10/06/2020 22:16

The tweet is still up. And a lot of bots must be on the case, as the number of likes has suddenly shot up. Interesting- makes you wonder how many other similar posts are artificially boosted.

Divoc2020 · 10/06/2020 22:19

No, it's still there twitter.com/TheBodyShop/status/1270773993109434373

Someone has linked the CEO's twitter handle now too: @DavidPBoynton but looks like his tweets are protected. Anyone know if he'll see things he's tagged in or not?

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