JK new post on her reasons for writing about gender

[BlackKite]

www.jkrowling.com/opinions/j-k-rowling-writes-about-her-reasons-for-speaking-out-on-sex-and-gender-issues/

Enjoy

The DM writers are perfectly capable of pitching an article to produce a certain result. Well played.

@Enormouscroc me too but as you'll see in one of my other threads, there doesn't seem to be much room for discussion.

However, JK's essay has provided me with much needed clarity and explained a very complex topic

Amazing. Because it's people like you who need to get this. There are more and more women who wake up to the reality of this situation every day. It's a horrible debate and so many people haven't looked beyond trying to be kind to vulnerable trans people. Which is fair enough, but they need to. Glad you found us here

What does Aidan Comerford actually do for a living? Literally whenever I look at his twitter he just constantly seems to be on there slagging off Graham Linehan, every time I look! 😂

If my child attended that school, Sandy, I would be concerned over what the hell they were teaching them!

I am so utterly confused by all this. I read jk's tweets and the essay and it all seems reasonable- how is stating sex is real a bad thing?

It isn’t necessarily a bad thing. But “stating sex is real” has become a code for saying: trans women are not women they are male and therefore are men and always will be men. And trans men are not men, they were born female so they will always be women.

I’m assuming you can see why that’s inflammatory and painful to many trans people?

Seeing the vitriolic responses to her does not compute with what I read, this makes me question my sanity,

There are lots of immature foul mouthed horrible people on Twitter. As there is on YouTube, Reddit etc. Anonymity on the internet does that.

And I'm assuming you can see why telling women they have to shut up and let male-bodied people access every single sex space they have fought long and hard for, never mind if they have PTSD from rape/sexual assault, never mind if they're a DV survivor, or of a religion that specifically disallows them from doing so, or if they find it utterly upsetting, demeaning and intimidating might just a little BIT be inflammatory and painful to women?

No? Because women don't matter, do they? We just have to suck it up.

Thanks for the responses, apologies if I have irritated anyone by asking something that has been asked before. I think I need to go and re-read what has been said and the break it down for me thread again. Perhaps I am just afraid and I need to channel that into getting angry.

I’m assuming you can see why that’s inflammatory and painful to many trans people?

People who are in denial about reality need mental health support. Demanding that everyone else also denies reality doesn't help them.

People cannot change sex.

I’m assuming you can see why that’s inflammatory and painful to many trans people?

So what? They are choosing to take offense at someone stating a true fact. It’s absurd that everyone else should be careful not to speak the truth in case it upsets someone whose thinking is willfully divorced from reality.

Really, so bloody what if the TRUTH upsets someone? Breaking it to my daughter that she can’t be a unicorn when she grows up because they’re not real - is that painful and offensive?? FGS.

Stating “God doesn’t exist” or using the terms “imaginary friend”, “sky fairy” etc is inflammatory and painful for religious people. Doesn’t mean people should be subject to abuse for saying those things though. We are all allowed to have an opinion on each other’s beliefs.

I just emailed the body shop ceo. No more body shop for me. I also emailed J.K. Rowling and thanked her

Anyone emailed their MP about this? Mine isn’t great on the whole (uber woke lefty labour) but I feel like I should and can’t seem to word it properly.

ItsLeviooosar Excellent email, I'm going to write to them too. I will also write to my MP, in case they're getting from the papers that no-one is on Rowling's side.

Stating “God doesn’t exist” or using the terms “imaginary friend”, “sky fairy” etc is inflammatory and painful for religious people. Doesn’t mean people should be subject to abuse for saying those things though. We are all allowed to have an opinion on each other’s beliefs.

You can try that line at MF’s appeal. Good luck with that.

The "God doesn't exist" line is pretty much my line for understanding trans issues too. I can respect that you believe these things, and do so sincerely, and that it has a very profound impact on how you live your life and interact with people, without believing it.

It also, I think, gives a handle on when behaviour tips over into genuine transphobia that might be covered by, e.g., workplace anti-discrimination policies.

Saying "I don't believe in god myself" in the context of a discussion about religion should be fine.

Describing someone's belief in god as being like "having an imaginary friend" or "sky fairies" makes you a bit of an arse (as, conversely, does any attempt to evangelise your work colleagues if you're religious).

Repeatedly saying "Fred believes in sky fairies" completely unprompted, just to get a laugh out of your colleagues in the staff canteen - you should be up on a disciplinary for workplace bullying at that point.

Equally though an employer insisting that employees must believe in God, always wear a cross and never take the Lords Name in vain or face being dismissed wouldn't be OK

So why is it employers are being compelled and abused for not wearing pronoun badges or having pronouns in their email signature and must answer the right way in diversity training on pain of being dismissed if they fail to do so?

I emailed my MP today. I just asked them to read JKRs blog, linked it and said I agreed with every word and asked if he would be considering women when voting on any pertinent legislation.

Just seen it covered on BBC 6 o clock news in more depth (ish). I think most of the public are going to look at it all and go wtf! Haven’t got a clue what any of this means.

I have nailed my colours to the mast and shared the post on Facebook. I don't have a job to lose, as a SAHM, but I am worried about the comments I'll get (and the private messages from friends I know I will have upset). I am not sure whether it will be good for my mental health.

But. JKR was courageous so I can be too.

@RedToothBrush

Equally though an employer insisting that employees must believe in God, always wear a cross and never take the Lords Name in vain or face being dismissed wouldn't be OK

So why is it employers are being compelled and abused for not wearing pronoun badges or having pronouns in their email signature and must answer the right way in diversity training on pain of being dismissed if they fail to do so?

Totally agree. It's appalling.

(Mercifully they haven't tried it in our workplace, though some of my woke colleagues have circulated "why you should be a good ally by putting pronouns in your signature" shit. Fortunately there are some out gender-critical women scientists there too who've said "and here's why you may not want to.")

Good luck, Grouchy. I've shared gc posts before on fb, had very muted response or none at all. I'm not feeling in a good place to do it right now, but I will at some point.

@Datun

I'm sick of all this fear mongering about the GRA, there's little to no chance that a man would go to the effort of declaring a change of gender just to infiltrate women's spaces.

And I'm sick of the ignorance, or if it's not ignorance, lies.

You can shove your 'little or no chance', and tell it to the one in 50 sex offenders in prison who are identifying as women in order to access female prisons. And succeeding.

Do you think all these women are playing games?? Do you think J. K. Rowling is playing a fucking game?

Can you imagine being sent to prison, with, at best, a statistically 50/50 chance that you are already suffering from a head injury due to domestic abuse, and finding that you have been housed with serial paedophile and violent rapist Karen White?

Idiots.

Datun - could you give the source for the one in 50 sex offenders in prisons identifying as women?

That's a horrific statistic.

As I said it's not one in 50 men who are sex offenders.

It's of those who identify as women.

The general consensus is that it's because they have autogynephilia, and men who have one paraphilia will often have more.

Statistically.

I’m assuming you can see why that’s inflammatory and painful to many trans people?

If I saw anyone, you included, giving a fuck about what in all this is inflammatory and painful to female people, I might take you more seriously.

As it is, I'll point out a very old phrase to you: 'driven to the discourtesy'.

What you're essentially saying to female humans is be quiet and be nice while we erase you and ban your rights. And with all due respect, fuck that.