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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

JK new post on her reasons for writing about gender

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BlackKite · 10/06/2020 17:13

www.jkrowling.com/opinions/j-k-rowling-writes-about-her-reasons-for-speaking-out-on-sex-and-gender-issues/

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OldCrone · 10/06/2020 21:55

I have not seen anyone say "I understand JKR to be saying this, however I don't agree that sex based protection is necessary because Y".

It may be because I am new to this that I have not read around the issue sufficiently.

I've been here for years, and I've yet to see a reasoned argument from the people who call us transphobes. Their best argument to date has been to keep saying 'no debate' and say that anyone who disagrees with them is a bigot.

TofuonToast · 10/06/2020 21:56

JK Rowling is the Emmeline Pankhurst of our time. We love you sister x

NotBadConsidering · 10/06/2020 21:57

Just amazing. Going to read the thread now.

SirVixofVixHall · 10/06/2020 22:01

thisoneday nope, that pretty much sums it up.
There is no critical argument, because the whole thing is based on falsities.

SunshineCake · 10/06/2020 22:02

I have read her piece throughout tonight. It is a brilliant piece of writing. I don't see the need for her to tell all about her assaults as she doesn't need to have been hurt to understand others pain.

Years ago it seemed every perceived celebrity had been bullied at school. It became the thing to say. Then being assaulted became the thing to say or they were depressed or had anxiety.

I have experience of these things and fully think it is my issue as to why I feel uncomfortable with JKR telling the world now. It frustrates, confuses and upsets me that I feel this way. I can't make sense of it, I can't find the words to explain what I mean and feel. I just wonder if anyone can understand.

I wish I had a scintilla of her strength, ability with words (this especially frustrates as part of menopause I have lost it, and me a published writer) and hope this post makes sense to someone.

Flowers for all with pain.

ComDummings · 10/06/2020 22:03

Email her!
I got a reply from her office within a couple of hours thanking me for the supportive message, so I’m hoping her team will let her know what she’s received a lot of support.

ComDummings · 10/06/2020 22:03

That*

CaraDune · 10/06/2020 22:06

Someone suggested a whole orchestra of us in praise of JK Rowling. I'm currently sat at the back of the second violins, playing my heart out!

Flowers JK Rowling.

And it doesn't surprise me that she's done this. After all, she's the writer who brought us Dolores Umbridge, one of the most chilling portrayals of the evils of authoritarian politics in a format even children can get since Animal Farm (I personally think Umbridge is her greatest creation - forget Voldemort, Umbridge is the character that scares the willies out of me, because Umbridge is the one who's lurking out there in the real world).

CheerfuIPotato · 10/06/2020 22:08

I’m tinging away on my triangle 💖

thisoneday · 10/06/2020 22:09

Thank you@SirVixofVixHall and @OldCrone

I also think talk of how sex is "fluid" seems to miss the point. Even if that were true (and I haven't seen any science to suggest it is) people are not discriminated against because they have a brain that is a bit more "female".

Discrimination lies in the biology that we can see, not the biology we can't.

I may be being thick, but this all seems to be a no-brainer.

Andthenthenewone · 10/06/2020 22:10

@ComDummings

Email her! I got a reply from her office within a couple of hours thanking me for the supportive message, so I’m hoping her team will let her know what she’s received a lot of support.
Can you share the email address please? PM?
Dogsaresomucheasier · 10/06/2020 22:12

She has been my heroine since 2002, when I first read Harry Potter. The voice of reason!

dazzlinghaze · 10/06/2020 22:12

Absolutely amazing. She's put everything I've been thinking and feeling into words. I felt really emotional reading that! I've admired her since I was an 8 year old girl but now as a 26 year old woman that admiration is on another level. I'm so grateful to her for this.

WhoKnew19 · 10/06/2020 22:13

Bloody brilliant piece of writing from her, absolutely everything I would ever want to say but wouldn't be able to find the words. Thank goodness for JK Rowling!

NeverTalksToStrangers · 10/06/2020 22:14

I'm quietly optimistic about Emma Watson. She's a clever girl. Afaik the only thing she has done prior to this is sport a "trans rights are human rights" t-shirt. Nothing incorrect with that statement.

RummidgeGeneral · 10/06/2020 22:15

Thank you JKR you awesome woman for speaking out.

Sadly I dare not be counted on social media due to uber woke workplace.

HarmonicAnalysis · 10/06/2020 22:15

What an incredible piece. Just fantastic. Thank you so much, JK. Flowers

SirVixofVixHall · 10/06/2020 22:17

thisoneday
Yes, it is a no-brainer. I tie my brain in knots trying to understand how it has taken such a hold.
A day or so back I read a horrific account of Yazidi girls being burnt to death in cages because they had refused to become sex slaves. Then some twaddle by a young woman about being non-binary. I cried with sadness and frustration, that our world and culture are destroying girls, and yet there are young women happily going along with this.

Enderthedragon · 10/06/2020 22:19

Emma has tweeted. So people can't tell trans people who they are, but can tell women what they are. Right, got it Emma...

JK new post on her reasons for writing about gender
TooTiredTodayOk · 10/06/2020 22:19

FFS - I shared the post on my Facebook, it got a couple of 'likes' from women I suspected might be of a similar view to me, so I'm happy with that.

And then this comment, I don't even know where to start in replying to it Confused
I'm sick of all this fear mongering about the GRA, there's little to no chance that a man would go to the effort of declaring a change of gender just to infiltrate women's spaces.

7Days · 10/06/2020 22:20

You fuck8ng eejit Emma.

Hand biting little weasel

Enderthedragon · 10/06/2020 22:21

Jesus, now Emma is encouraging people to donate to Mermaids!

ChattyLion · 10/06/2020 22:22

Thank you for writing so powerfully in that blog post JK. It means so much to read this. Sorry you had to mention your own survivorship. Thank you for speaking up for women and children. You get it. You’re using your platform. That’s something to be so proud of. I’m yet another woman so grateful to you for doing that, for me and so many others, children and adults. Please, keep going if you can. Don’t let the social media bastards get you down.Flowers

Definitelyrandom · 10/06/2020 22:22

Very, very good and nuanced writing from JKR. I know this doesn’t add anything to the discussion but I wanted to say that here.

DuDuDuLangaLangaBingBong · 10/06/2020 22:22

I’ve got an accordion and a recorder. Not sure how well that would work with an orchestra 😂

Kind of off topic but I’ve recently been learning about the all-female jazz big bands of the 30s and 40s. Can you imagine trying to get such a project off the ground nowadays? You’d probably be cancelled before the first rehearsal.
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