Pro-woman is just a euphemism for transphobic

[Littlemeadow123]

Exactly that.

Transgender people are not eroding our rights as women. Although, the people making such spiteful and ignorant comments and talking about trying to stop them getting recognized as women are eroding their rights to be accepted, respected equal. Do you all honestly think that by speaking out AGAINST transgender people, you are going to be declared as heroes?

And what happened to be kind?

Well yes wherecwas all that kindness when JK was told to suck cocks

Be kind suck a cock

@Neighbours87

Thanks OP it’s nice to see someone calling out transphobia on Mumsnet

Please report anything that is transphobic.

Could you clarify just what is transphobic here please?

@littlbrowndog

Well yes wherecwas all that kindness when JK was told to suck cocks

Be kind suck a cock

I wonder if it was a male dick or a lady dick, they meant? It’s so difficult to keep up. 🤔

@Neighbours87

Please do point out clearly the transphobia as I really do struggle to know what that means. I used to think I knew but its all murky now.

Be kind. Be aborted or thrown on a rubbish tip because you are a baby girl

Be kind

@datun “ Honestly, it's like hunt the brain cell.”

A game I’m guessing you’re very familiar with

@Neighbours87

Thanks OP it’s nice to see someone calling out transphobia on Mumsnet

Where's the transphobia? As they say on Twitter, receipts please.

From where I am standing Pro-trans is just a euphemism for misogyny

What happened to being kind to young girls who are getting used to their changing bodies?

What happened to being kind to girls who are trying to get sport scholarships for Uni in a world stacked against them?

What happened to being kind to abused women who are triggered by male bodied people?

What happened to giving disabled/old/sick women dignity in their medical care and hospital stays and letting them stay and be treated by their own sex if they wish?

Why is it only WOMEN who are asked to 'Be kind'? Why do you understand who is a woman when figuring out whom not to listen to? and who to abuse?

Why is it SO CLEAR that you know who a woman is BUT we are still asked to pretend not know who a woman is?

Be kind. But the being kind buck stops at denying reality to affirm someone's fantasy whilst simultaneously erasing someone else's rights. No-one wants to deny transpeople human rights.

It's much kinder not to lie. And lying to someone that extensive surgery and hormones actually changes their sex is a pretty awful thing to do to someone. It reminds me of those mad Christian people who tell gay people to pray the gay away. Nope. Imagination isn't going to change your reality.
If you don't conform to the ridiculously narrow gender stereotypes that the trans movement reinforces, that's perfectly fine. You are still you.

It really is like trying to explain astrophysics to an astrologer: some of the reference points and words are the same, but one is based on scientific evidence and the other blind faith.

It's so odd that people think that skirting around the questions or blatantly ignoring them makes them look like they are so much more enlightened than the rest of us.

You'd think they'd realise that being unable to answer a simple question in plain language completely proves the thing they're trying to say isn't true.

I just dont get how using the word pro-woman spiteful ignorant and unkind?

So many pseudo-religious fervours around atm.

I wonder if it was a male dick or a lady dick, they meant? It’s so difficult to keep up

Well, some of them self-described as lady dick, and I saw at least one NB-cock in there. Many of them were alarmingly detailed about their attributes (which funnily enough I've always thought of as a rather male trait, this whole "look at my genitals" thing - but now I am educated thanks to OP I realise it is just a dick thing).

@LillianBland

You mean the rights that some women have at law but seemingly not all women.

Well it is true that the law didn’t protect all those vulnerable young women being abused by the gangs in England. Those young people who were abused because of their female sex, were certainly let down by those in law, who were supposed to protect them.

Or maybe you mean those women who are repeatedly let down by the police, when they report that they are being stalked/harassed by their ex partners/husbands? Including the women amongst the 2-3 females a week, murdered by those of the male sex. Do you mean those women?

You’re right. A lot of women do seem to be prevented to accessing those rights. Those in law, that ignore women’s rights, must do better.

This is what I was thinking too LillianBland. We do need to work on these laws.

I keep seeing

Activist: 'but laws are already in place to protect any predators in the loos'.

Me: yes, but with such a low prosecution rate for sexual assaults and rape and voyeurism in this pornified society, why would want to further erode the safety of females by allowing someone with a penis into the loos. How about we turn our focus to making these prosecutions stick and significantly reducing male predatory behaviour and then continue the discussion when there is proof that the population you are advocating for to enter and use our loos are, in fact, not going to be a safeguarding issue. In the meantime, lets go for third spaces.

Why do they bother coming on the thread saying mn is transphobic then leaving again without any proof?

It shows them up as having no credibility and frankly shit stirrers not to mention foolish.

@DickKerrLadies

Littlemeadow

Do you believe women should continue to have all the rights they currently have in law?

Did I miss the answer to this question?

Yeah, but think of the people who will read the carefully cropped screenshots on twitter...

Then think

Then maybe wander over here to see what we actually said.

Every day's a school day.

It's so like talking to 14-year-olds, that I strongly suspect that's exactly what we're doing.

[quote Burgundy1844]@datun “ Honestly, it's like hunt the brain cell.”

A game I’m guessing you’re very familiar with [/quote]
Really?

Have you engaged with the thread with good intentions and have some answers or just like the others, here to denigrate and woke scold.

We have engaged with you with actual intent of learning where you are coming from. Have you done the same?

@Neighbours87

Thanks OP it’s nice to see someone calling out transphobia on Mumsnet

Brilliant.

Why do they bother coming on the thread saying mn is transphobic then leaving again without any proof?

Good question. If there's so many comments that are transphobic then surely they would quote them or call out the posters. Yet instead they suddenly appear, complain but give no specific examples, then disappear just as suddenly as they appeared.

Sarah From the OP, yes. Even the OP has disappeared now it's so obvious they are ignoring it.

I got a sort of answer by someone claiming that we don't want rights for all women, and now we're awaiting clarification as to which women they think are being excluded.

I thought that would take longer to sum up than it did, but I suppose I'm not surprised.

As in yes, you missed an answer. Because there wasn't one.

I really need to proof read.

Be kind. Yawn. The cry of privilege. It's not kind to take away the hard won rights of women.
Were the suffragettes kind?