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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Daniel Radcliffe responds to J.K Rowling's tweets on gender identity

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EddyF · 09/06/2020 04:40

Daniel Radcliffe responds to JK Rowling’s tweets: “Transgender women are women. Any statement to the contrary erases the identity and dignity of transgender people”

Daniel Radcliffe Responds to J.K. Rowling’s Tweets on Gender Identity – The Trevor Project

FULL STATEMENT

I realize that certain press outlets will probably want to paint this as in-fighting between J.K. Rowling and myself, but that is really not what this is about, nor is it what’s important right now. While Jo is unquestionably responsible for the course my life has taken, as someone who has been honored to work with and continues to contribute to The Trevor Project for the last decade, and just as a human being, I feel compelled to say something at this moment.

Transgender women are women. Any statement to the contrary erases the identity and dignity of transgender people and goes against all advice given by professional health care associations who have far more expertise on this subject matter than either Jo or I. According to The Trevor Project, 78% of transgender and nonbinary youth reported being the subject of discrimination due to their gender identity. It’s clear that we need to do more to support transgender and nonbinary people, not invalidate their identities, and not cause further harm.

I am still learning how to be a better ally, so if you want to join me in learning more about transgender and nonbinary identities check out The Trevor Project’s Guide to Being an Ally to Transgender and Nonbinary Youth. It’s an introductory educational resource that covers a wide range of topics, including the differences between sex and gender, and shares best practices on how to support transgender and nonbinary people.

To all the people who now feel that their experience of the books has been tarnished or diminished, I am deeply sorry for the pain these comments have caused you. I really hope that you don’t entirely lose what was valuable in these stories to you. If these books taught you that love is the strongest force in the universe, capable of overcoming anything; if they taught you that strength is found in diversity, and that dogmatic ideas of pureness lead to the oppression of vulnerable groups; if you believe that a particular character is trans, nonbinary, or gender fluid, or that they are gay or bisexual; if you found anything in these stories that resonated with you and helped you at any time in your life — then that is between you and the book that you read, and it is sacred. And in my opinion nobody can touch that. It means to you what it means to you and I hope that these comments will not taint that too much.

Love always,
Dan

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Crystaltree · 09/06/2020 16:56

@andyoldlabour when I saw the photo with all the 'suck my lady dick' hate speech on it, perhaps they said that because they literally can't get anyone to do it.

Dances · 09/06/2020 16:57

Thanks Datun

MadameMarie · 09/06/2020 17:01

I agree with JK but why are so many obsessed over the issue? Particularly on here which has a big reputation for trans-phobia.

If that's all you've got to worry about at the moment congratulations.

Newdadtogirl · 09/06/2020 17:04

I haven't mentioned JK Rowling, I haven't mentioned transmen.
I just said that I agreed with Daniel's statement, I even quoted the bits I liked, I'm not sure where you got JKR and transmen from?

I don't think transphobia is acceptable and neither does Daniel. Who he was responding to, is irrelevant.

So many comments asking me to explain this and that... just search on here, loads of info on trans issues on MN.

Thinkingabout1t · 09/06/2020 17:05

Transgender women are women. Any statement to the contrary erases the identity and dignity of transgender people and goes against all advice given by professional health care associations

Hmmm, I wonder if everyone who has studied medicine, biology, physiology etc thinks a man magically becomes a woman if he says he is? Seems unlikely.

I can understand why DR believes in magic. But come on Daniel, you left Harry Potter world years ago. You don't still expect your magic wand to work, do you?

Lordfrontpaw · 09/06/2020 17:06

Funny that. That'll be because there's an awful lot of women here and women and girl's (and that includes the little baby there) right are being shat upon.

wrongsideofhistorymyarse · 09/06/2020 17:06

@MadameMarie

I agree with JK but why are so many obsessed over the issue? Particularly on here which has a big reputation for trans-phobia.

If that's all you've got to worry about at the moment congratulations.

So what do you think is worthy of our notice?
TheProdigalKittensReturn · 09/06/2020 17:07

You don't still expect your magic wand to work, do you?

Reading this right after Crystaltree's comment was certainly interesting.

Michelleoftheresistance · 09/06/2020 17:07

I don't think transphobia is acceptable and neither does Daniel.

But both of you believe in male supremacism, homophobia and all the rest of it.

Got it.

backseatcookers · 09/06/2020 17:07

@Newdadtogirl

If biology isn't what makes your child a girl, and they aren't old enough to identify themselves, what is it that makes them a girl?

Genuinely interested in your answer because you don't seem to understand the irony in your name that myself and other posters have picked up on.

So it would be great to get your thoughts on it.

BaronessFloralBunting · 09/06/2020 17:08

The thread is about Radcliffe's statement about JK Rowling. He didn't mention transmen either.

We're talking about women and their rights and protections. You fathered one, likely with your female partner. Step up and get used to women's rights and voices mattering and your opinions on them not making a difference to that.

MadameMarie · 09/06/2020 17:08

So what do you think is worthy of our notice?

I'm not saying it isn't, but there's a 900+ post thread about the same thing every day with everyone making the same point.

Maybe it's just the cabin fever but i'm sick of hearing about it.

TheProdigalKittensReturn · 09/06/2020 17:10

Is there someone who's making you read threads you're sick of? If so they really ought to stop that.

BaronessFloralBunting · 09/06/2020 17:10

@MadameMarie

So what do you think is worthy of our notice?

I'm not saying it isn't, but there's a 900+ post thread about the same thing every day with everyone making the same point.

Maybe it's just the cabin fever but i'm sick of hearing about it.

Do you have a glitchy device that forces you to read threads you're not interested in? You should probably get that looked at.
OvaHere · 09/06/2020 17:12

@MadameMarie

I agree with JK but why are so many obsessed over the issue? Particularly on here which has a big reputation for trans-phobia.

If that's all you've got to worry about at the moment congratulations.

I dunno. Maybe it's the constant attempts to wipe women as a political class out of all legislation and policy.

Many women think that's one hell of a lot to worry about.

backseatcookers · 09/06/2020 17:13

I don't think transphobia is acceptable and neither does Daniel.

I'm not transphobic.

I don't believe it is morally right or factually correct to label me a 'cis woman' but say 'transwomen are women'. Because it makes someone like me who is born a woman a category within the umbrella term - woman - which is nonsensical.

So trans women are women but those of us formally known as women are cis women... surely you can see that doesn't make sense?

You can't defend viewpoints by saying "because I'm not transphobic" because by implication you're saying people with other viewpoints must be. I'm not.

RedDogsBeg · 09/06/2020 17:15

Newdadtogirl

Oh do stop being so bloody disingenuous

I haven't mentioned JK Rowling, I haven't mentioned transmen.

DR's statement was about what JKR said, which was about women and menstruation, NOT about transwomen so why so you and DR immediately have to jump to the TWAW stance? Couldn't possibly be that you are both men and feel you have an absolute right to determine what a woman is without any thought, consideration or reference to women and what they actually want or think, could it?

I just said that I agreed with Daniel's statement, I even quoted the bits I liked, I'm not sure where you got JKR and transmen from?

JKR was talking about menstruation something that only women do, and as transmen are biologically female then they fall into that category. Again, JKR came from what DR is responding to, don't play dumb and pretend you didn't know that.

I don't think transphobia is acceptable and neither does Daniel. Who he was responding to, is irrelevant.

Of course who he is responding to is relevant he wouldn't have mentioned JKR if he wasn't responding to what she said would he? Yet neither you nor DR mention transmen, so only transwomen count to you, there's a surprise since transwomen are male like you and DR.

Fanthorpe · 09/06/2020 17:15

I don’t think there’s ever a day when you shouldn’t speak out if you can, it’s threads like this that explain and move the discussion forward.

ThumbWitchesAbroad · 09/06/2020 17:16

@SirVixofVixHall

NewDad will you still be liking his “clarity” if your daughter decides out of the blue, at 16, that she is a boy, gets put on cross sex hormones and has a double mastectomy, all while still under 18 ? Even though she is on the autistic spectrum ,and almost certainly a lesbian who has absorbed the message that non-girly girls who fancy other girls must be boys ? This has happened to a child we know by the way, I am not using hyperbole.
I think it's coming out now that this has happened and is still happening to many ASD girls! Even the Tavistock Clinic's own statistics show that there is a hugely steep rise in teen girls wishing to transition, and many of them are on the spectrum.

It's atrocious.

tellmewhentheLangshiplandscoz · 09/06/2020 17:18

Switch that question round ... why are so many people so obsessed with telling us TWAW? If someone's "gender identity" is all they have to worry about right now, congratulations.

There are many threads which discuss our concerns (or obsession over things like safety, boundaries and safeguarding, as you put it). Quit being lazy, maybe read them and come back and perhaps give some reassurance?

Or just don't read the thread if it's so boring.

PurpleHoodie · 09/06/2020 17:20

They were asking you how you made you baby.

And how you knew which type of human to do that with.

By the way. When you and your partner went to the registry office to register the birth of your child, did you tell the registrar that you had a baby girl?

Tut tut if you did you know. Tut tut.

PurpleHoodie · 09/06/2020 17:20

"Your baby

MadameMarie · 09/06/2020 17:22

Do you have a glitchy device that forces you to read threads you're not interested in? You should probably get that looked at.

Yeah, maybe I will.

And a lot of you need your obsession over trans-people looked at.

Sonotech · 09/06/2020 17:24

Please don’t allow Newdadtogirl to derail a brilliant thread in support of a very brave women JK.

I don’t think Newdad is who they are portraying themselves tbh

Any who!! More flowers for JK! 🌸🌻🌼🌹💐🌸🌻🌼🌹

CaraDune · 09/06/2020 17:25

I haven't mentioned JK Rowling, I haven't mentioned transmen.
I just said that I agreed with Daniel's statement, I even quoted the bits I liked, I'm not sure where you got JKR and transmen from?

And there we have it, my fellow uterus havers (or whatever the phrase du jour is).

I, a manly man, felt it right to support a man's manly utterances. When women drew my attention to the fact that this man was commenting on what a woman had said, I correctly drew their attention to the fact that I had said nothing about what the woman herself had originally said.

Can you honestly not see what the fuck is so wrong with that, Newdadtogirl