11 year old girl set homework asking her to 'define hardcore pornography'

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Mum fuming as daughter, 11, set homework asking her to 'define hardcore pornography' headline from the Mirror.

Mrs Taylor said if her daughter had searched these phrases online in order to define them, the results would have "destroyed her mind" and "scarred her for life".

"My daughter is still very much a child, we've still got magic elves, her bedroom is done in My Little Pony. She is very innocent and naive.

"She was only in primary school last year living her best life, now she is being asked to search for hardcore pornography.

www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/mum-fuming-daughter-11-set-22049850

It is surprising to see posters spreading doubt as to whether this has happened. Why would someone be motivated to do that?

Very odd, particularly given the reported reaction of the school. There was the usual waffly non- apology, then wittering on about they never intended children to search on the Internet as all the answers were in the course materials.

If it didn't happen all the school need to have said was "it didn't happen"

Maybe if people read the article they would have known that...

But it was "The Mail" !!! You can't expect such high minded posters to read The Mail ( nor indeed apparently to read at all - given the link was quite clearly to The Mirror)

Sorry about the earlier thread, but how would anybody searching, which I did, ever think that that title was anything to do with the story

I wasn't having a go. Sorry if you thought that. I was just adding for reference as there was quite a bit of discussion in there.

Dido

Ova I'm going to post that link from the PSHE association on the other thread.*

Yeah...My 11 DD is being educated on photoshopping and vaping...

We have done the "period talk." Unlikely it will happen to her this summer, but covered that base at least.

Mine both started before they went into yr 6

I did read the article where the non apology from the school is included and the questions. Which are worse than the headline suggests.

Why on earth are they

A. Teaching this to young kids and
B. Didn't it occur to them they might Google while doing their homework?

And yes I know the stock MN answer is parents should be looking over their shoulder all the time while on the net and also have parental control set up etc but real life isn't like that unfortunately

And a school should know better ffs

Haggis

Are the teaching materials set by age/year, they must be?
I'm just wondering if the school are saying the followed the PSHE association materials yet an 11 year old ended up with this home work?

The shocking thing here is that rather than pages of outrage insisting the school takes responsibility for what its done, we are arguing that it didn't happen cos its reported in the tabloids. Clearly it did happen - so why aren't we more angry? If that was my child's school I'd reporting it to OFSTED as a safeguarding issue.

Wow. That's such a monumental error that nothing less than resignation of the staff involved should be acceptable. It's surely extremely close to, if not actually, criminal.

"Children were not directed to research the terms online" - what, these children who were studying, at home, online, without teacher guidance, were not expected to use the internet to come up with definitions? In what world does that wash?

The only discussion anyone should be having with kids about pornography is that it exists, it's not a reflection of real life, and reasons why it's dangerous and damaging.

I thought I was done being shocked but this stuff and recent revelations about inclusion of guides to masturbation ("porn is okay! Everyone uses it!") anal sex and stuff considered extreme sexual practices in schools toolkits is just blowing my mind. Arghhhhh.

Take a look at this link on the PSHE association website.

www.pshe-association.org.uk/system/files/Factsheet%20-%20Transition%20of%20pupil.pdf

The first line is "The Anti-Homophobic, Biphobic and Transphobic Bullying Alliance" but the whole document concerns (mock surprise)
trans. As if telling young girls wondering if they may be lesbians that if they don't want to date males they are bigoted terfs isn't homophobic. So sick of this gaslighting.

It might be a bit boring, but could help make threads easy to find and join in with if the titles weren't some sort of subliminal insider code!

I agree. This thread had a much better subject heading as it was specific. I don't read all threads due to time limits; I choose the ones that say what they are actually about. I had not opened the other thread. That's just a hint...!

That document was produced by mermaids and has the usual mosh mash of quasi legalese and deliberate manipulation of relevant legislation.

Jesus Christ. Unbelievable

The porn normalisation juggernaut thunders onward.

It is surprising to see posters spreading doubt as to whether this has happened. Why would someone be motivated to do that?

Because you are bing forced to teach Stonewall's message on trans issues.

I actually think the teacher who did this has done us all a favour. It's in writing, it's in the news, it's much better for it to be out in the open than taught to 11 year olds.

We should thank sho ever put this out as a resource.

"Widen your mind" by reading the Daily Mail is peak mumsnet

refusing to read an interesting link from the mirror because you dont like the mail is pretty small minded, isnt it?

that lesson is madness- how this got through is bewildering.

It's also a bit thick to refuse to read a link from one tabloid with radically different political views from another one because you don't like the second one's politics

My dd was asked in year 7 IT homework to bring in a newspaper story about online grooming. I did the researching for her and most of the results were really gruesome. And most of the newspaper articles were about convicted teachers.

"Widen your mind" by reading the Daily Mail is peak mumsnet grin

Or keep just reading papers like the Guardian, and never find out 11 year olds are being taught this sort of stuff? No thanks.
It doesn’t matter if it’s the Mirror, the DM, the Bible, or Breitbart, the article is factual and it reveals something highly inappropriate that the school apologised for.

It’s the fact most “credible” news organisations have ignored this sort of shite for so long that has allowed it to proliferate without criticism. Fuck. That.

Leaving aside the stupidity of not expecting kids to Google terms - what would the course materials say differentiates hard core pornography from soft pornography without being horribly grim?

"Here girls, in soft porn things are generally quite nice, basic sex, possibly making it hard to see how much hatred you'll be facing from your male classmates. But if we turn to hardcore you'll see you look forward to a future of being beaten, strangled and being forced to choke on your partner's penis because this is now normalised by porn. Good luck. And if you think you can avoid that horror by coming out as a lesbian then let me introduce our new sexual inclusivity lesson..."

"Students were not directed to research these topics themselves on the internet because all the answers to the questions students posed were contained in the teacher-produced materials we shared.”

So now I really want to know what the hell is in the teacher-produced materials .

"they never intended children to search on the Internet as all the answers were in the course materials." Well that was naive then.

Sadly we can't keep it from them and they must be prepared for a world where it is common. But it must be taught about face to face and carefully for this reason. I think it is probably best tackled at home before the school even brings it up. Parents can teach about it in smaller steps and with their greater knowledge of their child.