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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Did anyone write to M &S Re changing rooms?

109 replies

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 18/05/2020 18:41

Baroness Nicolson wants evidence rather than heresay...

twitter.com/Baroness_Nichol/status/1262437703217528838?s=19

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SirSamuelVimesBlackboardMonito · 19/05/2020 21:27

I've emailed the Brilliant Baroness and pointed her in the direction of Center Parcs, including a link to the threads on here. Fingers crossed. I bloody love CP and I want to go back.

Cuntysnark · 19/05/2020 21:30

She’s onto the toolkit too. She’s fantastic.

Datun · 19/05/2020 22:00

If they do reply banging on about TWAW and inclusivity, they will have to explain how they are going to include the minority women that the baroness mentioned.

If they can't do that, let's see the headlines in the papers.

Women are allowed sex segregated spaces, under the law. This is just a question of choice for Marks & Spencer's.

Sexnotgender · 19/05/2020 22:05

She’s also tweeting about that ridiculous homework set for 11 year olds about hard core porn.

I think I love her💕

Jux · 19/05/2020 22:08

Clymene thank you Gin[whisky][wild women]

FloralBunting · 19/05/2020 22:12

Oo. It feels like Martina and JKR all over again. I love it when women with serious pull get this and show exactly why they are women with serious pull - because they have integrity, verve and ability. Bloody marvellous.

Doyoumind · 19/05/2020 22:13

The TRAs are not happy on twitter - telling her she has misunderstood and misrepresented the law 🙄

SirSamuelVimesBlackboardMonito · 19/05/2020 22:26

Love that so many 21 year old undergraduates believe that they understand the law better than everyone else. Including the people who help make the laws.

ethelredonagoodday · 19/05/2020 22:28

I've been following her for the last few weeks. She's a marvel!

Sexnotgender · 20/05/2020 08:23

Some of the replies to her are hilarious. I can feel the impotent rage from here at a strong woman who can’t be bullied.

ScapaFlo · 20/05/2020 09:42

I might have to actually join twitter just to follow her. Thanks to those who post links to her twitter, most helpful

Lamahaha · 20/05/2020 10:15

I've just received the email reply from Ms Willmott, with five attachments: the already posted reply to M&S chairman, a letter to Ms Truss, a letter to Matt Hancock, a list of questions regarding single sex wards to the Department of Health and Social Care, and the short debate by Lord Lucas from February regarding single sex toilets.

She's really digging in her heels. Sunlight! Grin

Lamahaha · 20/05/2020 10:45

Her letter to Matt Hancock concerns single sex wards and contains attachments illustrating how the "NHS Guidelines contained in its Annex B are significantly divorced" from legislation of the Equality Act 2010.

She has tweeted this letter and attachment here:

twitter.com/Baroness_Nichol/status/1262823024493019145?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

SirVixofVixHall · 20/05/2020 10:54

She is wonderful isn’t she ? Will be interesting to see their response to that !
The 11 year old girl being given homework on hardcore porn is horrifying. Tell me there isn’t an agenda to sexualise children. Hmm

sourdoughismyreligion · 20/05/2020 11:04

Yes I got that too. It's horrifying how badly the Equality Act 2010 has been misrepresented. The next bit she highlights from the NHS mentions people who live permanently or temporarily in a gender role which does not conform to their natal sex. I'd really love to know what they mean by that. What is the gender role which conforms to the female sex?

Lamahaha · 20/05/2020 11:06

I might have to actually join twitter just to follow her. Thanks to those who post links to her twitter, most helpful

I've reactivated my Twitter account just to bask in the sunlight!
Our favourite doctor isn't very happy...

twitter.com/BillBaggins96/status/1263029890611400704/photo/1

Sexnotgender · 20/05/2020 11:08

Tell me there isn’t an agenda to sexualise children.

I hate to be the bearer of bad news...

FloralBunting · 20/05/2020 11:47

'Conflating two entirely separate pieces of legislation'

Having a thorough knowledge of the actual law rather than soundbites cropped from Stonewall agitprop literature? Indeed.

'entirely unworkable policy'

I think this is another iteration of 'if men want to ignore and violate women's boundaries, they will, and you can't stop us, ha ha ha ha.'

Either way, nul points, Brains. Try sticking to that prepackaged question thing you've been reading on the 111 phone line.

Sexnotgender · 20/05/2020 13:16

Entirely unworkable policy? You mean the same policy that worked ABSOLUTELY FINE for years whereby males go into one fitting area and females the other?

I know it’s maybe a little complex for him to understand but it seems straightforward enough.

Datun · 20/05/2020 13:52

entirely unworkable policy'

I think this is another iteration of 'if men want to ignore and violate women's boundaries, they will, and you can't stop us, ha ha ha ha.'

That's exactly what it is. How are you going to stop us, eh? eh?

Backing it up with you don't know what's in their pants, and what about butch women or transmen?

Exposing, in one fell swoop, their utter determination to violate women's boundaries, rather than obey the culturally acceptable rules.

And if a mistake is made, then a mistake is made! Why do they think it's the end of the universe??

They genuinely think that calling someone the wrong sex is a hanging offence.

MrsSnippyPants · 20/05/2020 16:07

The TRAs are now weaponising children

Clymene · 20/05/2020 18:20

Not just weaponising any old children either but their own children Sad

Datun · 20/05/2020 18:56

The TRAs are now weaponising children

That tweet is pathetic.

WTFSeriously · 20/05/2020 19:15

What the Baroness is doing is exactly what women have been working hard to secure for quite some time - someone with a solid working knowledge of the power structures & the ability to grasp the issues, as well as ask pointed, well evidenced Qs to key & influential people. And openly too.

I frankly couldn't care less what her political leaning are/were, she's listened & asked questions & is getting shit done. Bravo to the Baroness Wine

Sexnotgender · 20/05/2020 19:52

That tweet is pathetic.

Totally. What “Emily” needs to realise is that no one thinks they are a threat. However equally their wants do not override the needs of other children and they can’t just barge into sex segregated spaces that belong to the opposite sex.