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Did anyone write to M &S Re changing rooms?

109 replies

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 18/05/2020 18:41

Baroness Nicolson wants evidence rather than heresay...

twitter.com/Baroness_Nichol/status/1262437703217528838?s=19

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Angryresister · 20/05/2020 19:53

I got the letter with attachments too.... The Baroness has certainly been using her time under lockdown. So glad to the question about hospitals.

Thinkingabout1t · 20/05/2020 19:53

I'll email the Baroness. Good to know someone is on our side.

Like many others, I wrote to M&S and got the standard "yes dear, now piss off" reply: "As a business, we strive to be inclusive and therefore, we allow customers the choice of which fitting room they feel comfortable to use ..."

Never mind the women who don't feel comfortable hearing men making sure we know they're trying on bras. And never mind the shop assistants who are forced to take part in their sex fantasies by witnessing them.

I wrote back "I would not feel at all comfortable seeing men in the women’s changing rooms. Surely the majority of your customers are women, most of whom would feel the same way, especially if they have children with them. Women like women-only facilities because they are safe for both women and children."

i included a link to a Sunday Times investigation showing that most assaults on women in changing rooms are carried out by men in mixed-sex facilities.

Needless to say, I never heard a word back.

Sexnotgender · 20/05/2020 19:57

And never mind the shop assistants who are forced to take part in their sex fantasies by witnessing them

A million times this. I worked in a shoe shop when I was 16 and a creepy fucker used to come in late in the evening to try on knee/thigh high boots. He clearly got off on it and management did nothing about it.

Datun · 20/05/2020 20:58

They kept saying that people could use which ever changing room they felt comfortable in. So what if a man feels comfortable changing in the children's changing room?

And if challenged says he identifies as a child. Self identification has no legal basis, at all. You can self identify as what the fuck you like.

So if they are accepting self identified men/women, then they must do the same for self identified children. Pound to a penny they can't articulate why they don't.

Thinkingabout1t · 20/05/2020 21:26

Could someone post the Baroness's email address here, please? My screen (or my eyesight) isn't good enough to read it from the images posted.

I'm longing to send her my ridiculous correspondence with M&S. Even while I'm mourning a shop I used to love.

Thinkingabout1t · 20/05/2020 21:35

I worked in a shoe shop when I was 16 and a creepy fucker used to come in late in the evening to try on knee/thigh high boots. He clearly got off on it

Ugh, I sympathise. When I worked in a cinema the young usherettes used to get hassled by some old sleazebag who seized his chance when one of us was minding the foyer alone.

Back then, if an older usherette or one of the male staff saw him they would chase him out. These days, they would be arrested if they tried to stand up for us.

It still makes my skin crawl thinking how he sleazed in looking like a snake about to swallow a mouse.

Lamahaha · 21/05/2020 06:29

@Thinkingabout1t: [email protected]

Thinkingabout1t · 21/05/2020 10:48

Thanks, Lama

Thinkingabout1t · 25/05/2020 17:09

I wrote to Emma Nicholson, forwarding my correspondence with M&S, and got an encouraging reply.

She said "Thank you for your very constructive email. If we all pull together, I am confident that we will win. I will stay in touch and thank you again."

It feels good to have someone in power on our side. I have given up hoping Labour will see the light.

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