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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Lesbian Visibility Week 2020

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applepineapple · 20/04/2020 15:23

According the 'Diva Survey' Hmm (groundbreaking research into the lives of LGBTQI women), "86% of LGBTQI women are aware of media coverage about the transphobic attitudes of a small group of lesbians". Of course this is accompanied by a quote of "trans women are women".

There are no details on how many people were interviewed or where the research took place.

Further along the Visible Lesbian 100 page there is a lovely bit of explaining that if you define lesbian as a women who is sexually attracted to other women then you are guilty of narrow and prejudiced thinking!

Honestly, I'm not a lesbian but I'm just so pissed off at this! AngryAngry

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Kit19 · 20/04/2020 15:29

genuinely i dont know how more lesbian's arent completely furious at the high handed change of the definition of lesbian

Squidgoals · 20/04/2020 15:30

It boils my piss. Get the T and the Q away from the LGB

applepineapple · 20/04/2020 15:41

Notable lesbians they have decided to pick as their 100 include everyone's favourite knitter, Jane Fae and 'passionate and outspoken advocate' Mhairi Black.

Yes, the T and Q have no business being part of this. A trans lesbian is just a hetero bloke! FGS

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Thelnebriati · 20/04/2020 15:42

The Equality Act defines a lesbian as a woman who is same sex attracted, so Diva needs to educate themselves and do better.

BringbackLang · 20/04/2020 15:44

The groundbreaking research is slanted to their target demographic ie the gender identity brigade. It's not accurate in any way shape or form because it is biased.

It's about as groundbreaking as asking if you prefer a twix or a snickers.

Michelleoftheresistance · 20/04/2020 15:45

Males redefine female sexuality to better suit and service their own sexual needs, and then shame and pressure females to call this a good idea.

Basically trying to end female homosexuality because it's so fucking inconvenient to men. Even that there are females out there who in theory are saying no to males can't be tolerated. It's laughable.

This lesbian knows what biological sex is, and is homosexual thanks. If you want to call that 'transphobic' do crack on.

Thinkingabout1t · 20/04/2020 16:13

I know homophobia has always existed. But I never thought I would see it come back into fashion, championed by the wokest of the woke.

But then I never thought I'd see an LGB alliance or a mainstream feminist group described as "hate groups" by big names in the Labour Party.

And least of all did I ever think I would be relying on the Sunday Times and the Spectator for accurate coverage of women's issues!

GeordieTerf · 20/04/2020 16:22

Jane Fae! Shock

Kit19 · 20/04/2020 16:25

the problem is though bringbacklang is that it just reinforces the feeling among lesbians that if you dont believe it you're wrong and bigoted and in a minority because all the other lesbians believe it and you're a handful transphobe

so you end up with the mental gymnastic threads on twitter where young lesbians are saying "if you're bi you're not a lesbian, lesbians dont do dick" really assertively
right until someone says "what about TW" and they repeat the TWAW are mantra...

Angryresister · 20/04/2020 16:39

So now it’s a trans rag? You couldn’t make it up!

SomeDyke · 20/04/2020 17:54

And to those who try to claim that a lady peen is 'just like' a strap-on, my answer would be .....So, you'll be okay with me removing it and boiling it in bleach then.

Diva, contributing to Lesbian INvisibility with every issue............

MedusasButterDish · 20/04/2020 19:06

lesbian.visibilityweek.sham Hmm

Still, let this nonsense become more visible, by all means:

"the only threat to lesbian identities is those who believe 'lesbian' is for them alone to define... That... means that fewer and fewer women-loving women feel comfortable claiming a lesbian identity."

Damn shame, those lesbians going back into the closet where they can't be found! Grin

Melroses · 20/04/2020 20:59

It was very tempting to tweet some of the "lesbians" in scanty underwear and awful skinny legs for a bit of visibility, but wishing for something more positive, I have retweeted Liane and friends who look far more fun, and very much happier.

Kantastic · 20/04/2020 21:23

Jane Fae!

wow, yuk. How's the circulation of Diva doing? Are women still the target market?

Lordfrontpaw · 21/04/2020 08:47

I present without comment...

Lesbian Visibility Week 2020
Sicario · 21/04/2020 09:31

There is no T in LESBIAN.

Lordfrontpaw · 21/04/2020 10:10

It has been pointed out!

I’m glad I’m not in the office because it’s London Pride central around there (and my colleagues didn’t ‘get’ why it pissed me off so much).

Hypatia415 · 21/04/2020 11:30

If you're going to make a post on Lesbian Visibility Week, maybe use it to raise the visibility of lesbians?

Lesbian visibility day is important. All too often women are seen through a hetero-normative lense. Today is about celebrating women who are proud to stand out and show that there are many different ways of being a woman.

Like every other week, too many people on this board are appropriate feminism as another angle to attack trans people. Can't you just give it a rest? I would prefer to see posts of the feminism board used to support other women, not tearing down groups who the vast majority of people outside of this echo chamge do consider women.

Whatever you views on trans people, lets me a post about lesbian visability day actually be about lesbian visability day.

Lordfrontpaw · 21/04/2020 11:37

Its Pride in London who have made the attack as far as I can see.

Support women yes, support women... 'Consider ' is not fact.

SuperLoudPoppingAction · 21/04/2020 11:42

I might start a lesbian visibility thread on here with my favourite notable lesbians.

Diva is an embarrassment.
I remember finding it a bit earnest and political in the 90s but I wish I could have 90s Diva now with articles about social class and lesbian relationships etc.

Every time I get cross with Diva or Pink News I try and send a donation to Lesbian Connection or Rain and Thunder

Lordfrontpaw · 21/04/2020 11:55

I know someone who worked on Pink in the 90s. She was quite proud of it at the time - not now.

SuperLoudPoppingAction · 21/04/2020 12:01

I loved the pink paper in the 90s. It was the only free gay paper I could get hold of.

Before the internet was much of a thing it made me think and made me feel less alone.

Michelleoftheresistance · 21/04/2020 12:04

Like every other week, too many people on this board are appropriate feminism as another angle to attack trans people.

Oh for goodness sake, the whole point of the damn thread is that some males have appropriated lesbianism and feminism as a means of controlling women's bodies, sexual choices, sexual freedoms and freedoms. If that isn't a feminist issue then what on earth in your opinion is? If males hadn't started this by appropriating from females in the first place, no one here would be needing to talk about it. So basically you're saying here how nice it would be if females pretended not to notice being oppressed.

Can't you just give it a rest?

Can't you? Because whingeing at women for standing up for women's rights is beyond silly really.

I would prefer to see posts of the feminism board used to support other women,

How exactly? In what? Because you're making it clear that only certain kinds of women and certain things about women should be supported - female homosexuals for example can gtf. Go start the threads discussing the things you want to talk about, and quit moaning at and trying to shame into silence women whose voices and female experience and feminist points of view aren't your personally approved ones, that's about as anti feminist as you can get really.

not tearing down groups who the vast majority of people outside of this echo chamge do consider women.

If males don't want to be told when they're trampling other people's boundaries then the answer is they need to stop the trampling. Not for the people being trampled to just lay down and accept it nicely. Homosexual women saying no to this colonisation and appalling hostile take over of their sexuality, bodies, freedoms, are not 'tearing down' when they say no. My God, could you victim blame any harder?

And as a lesbian, no. Males are not lesbians, and I thoroughly resent that males have targeted every single thing exclusively aimed at women from refuges to lesbian publications like Diva which was great in its day, and forcibly brought to centre males and males experience of being TW, while trying to suppress actual female people. (And like you, only praising female people who prioritise compliance and pats for the superior male born women.) Fuck that. Seriously. Fuck that.

Lordfrontpaw · 21/04/2020 12:07

You can't use the word 'woman' these days without certain groups rocking up (it's like a summons) and telling us what a woman is and demanding representation front and centre (whilst telling us how we are doing it all wrong).

Back off, stay in your lane (as the kids say today)

Ereshkigalangcleg · 21/04/2020 12:29

the vast majority of people outside of this echo chamge do consider women.

I think not. Try stepping outside of your echo chamber for a change.

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