Lesbian Visibility Week 2020

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According the 'Diva Survey' (groundbreaking research into the lives of LGBTQI women), "86% of LGBTQI women are aware of media coverage about the transphobic attitudes of a small group of lesbians". Of course this is accompanied by a quote of "trans women are women".

There are no details on how many people were interviewed or where the research took place.

Further along the Visible Lesbian 100 page there is a lovely bit of explaining that if you define lesbian as a women who is sexually attracted to other women then you are guilty of narrow and prejudiced thinking!

Honestly, I'm not a lesbian but I'm just so pissed off at this!

I only know one person who considers this so - but he as a bit of a right on gaslighter and I can't see him going the distance...

There is another thread and lots on FB celebrating lesbians Hypatia and it would be nice if we could just do that without having to clarify what a lesbian is, or even what a woman is, but you can't you see, as we always have to establish first that we are not including men.

Whilst the pic from Pride posted above 'celebrates' lesbians whilst celebrating men it's important to separate the two.

Using phrases like 'All Women' means men who think they are woman and so it's not All Women is it? It's women and men so All Adults.

To do this is tedious and annoying but we cannot "give it a rest" as if we stop for a moment to take a breath or take a piss, we lose our language.

I say this, to cite a phrase from the ever-increasing reach of identity politics, As A Heterosexual woman, who will defend lesbians until my dying day.

I'm with Michelle

Every single word.

Haven't we just had Trans Day of Visibility? Did women leap all over that and demand front row tickets?

International Women's day became a 'what is a woman?' debate. Woman's History Month is just ignored at the best of time.

Pride, in fact, any LGB (as well as woman's) event becomes a showcase for T. Now whay is that - can anyone explain why this has become the case in such a few years?

who the vast majority of people outside of this echo chamge do consider women

Only in your little woke-istan bubble dear, the majority of people on this planet are not that detached from reality as you are.

And "give it a rest?" LOL. can the Trans and gender specials not give it a rest considering they have two separate days dedicated to themselves but still have to force their way into one measly week dedicated to homosexual women, who are already last priority when it comes to LGBT activism?

Let me tell you something, I am very open about my criticisms of the modern day transgender movement with people in real life because i see the negative impact it is having on the Lesbian community and womens rights on a whole. I have spoken to many people from all walks of life, some LGBT some not and the majority of them do not see trans women as women or trans men as men, they see them as transgender at best or mentally unwell at worst.

Even the ones who are very gung- ho with their activism online. When it comes to real life, even they cannot deny material reality for too long. This is why the phrase "The left is eating itself" has become so common, because gender ideology is not sustainable in the long run for the majority of those who wish to preserve their mental health so the end result is advocates turning on themselves.

No one owes you a subscription to your ideology, we often respect chosen pronouns out of politeness and civility, but they are an accommodation, not a right. The Trans movement wants respect? Then give it back and stop colonizing celebrations that arent about you.

On a brighter note, after all the mud slinging at the LGB Alliance this past week or so, that really culminated in John Nicolson MP accusing them of pile on, the Alliance has turned it into a positive. They asked people who disagreed with Nicolson’s tweet calling them transphobic amongst other things to donate in his name with a message that they’d tweet out.

Nicely done in Lesbian Visibility Week.

My eyeballs hurt...

...they missed out dyslexic people on that list. Oh, and folk that don't like marzipan.

And now the NHS...........

Really, how hard would it have been to say that poor mental health amongst lesbians linked to incidences of homophobia and sexism. Some recognition of the fact that sexism is specific to lesbians, and an additional issue compared to plain ole homophobia. No, we must be inclusive, and include all homosexuals in case the gay men get upset, and all 'women' so that TRAs don't get upset. And no one gives a fuck about actual lesbians................(the ole fashioned cunty ones who like cunt).

This visibility week though is doing a marvelous job at making very clear how lesbians are being disappeared and exactly why this is happening.................

Men who identify as women and are sexually attracted to women are not lesbians. They're heterosexual. Lesbians are females who are same SEX attracted. Gender identity doesn't come into it.

Really, how hard would it have been to say that poor mental health amongst lesbians linked to incidences of homophobia and sexism. Some recognition of the fact that sexism is specific to lesbians, and an additional issue compared to plain ole homophobia. No, we must be inclusive, and include all homosexuals in case the gay men get upset, and all 'women' so that TRAs don't get upset.

YY. Imagine if they did that on trans visibility day.

Not to undermine the points made above, but I think part of the issue there is there is v little disaggregated data now.
From what I can tell anyway.
Most lesbian organisations have shut and there are only 'LGBT' ones which do research aimed at the whole quiltbag / initial soup.

I wish lesbian line were still going.

I'm sure I read a paper recently about lesbians and hate crime which said we are much less likely to report and even to identify it because we almost expect it.

Maybe it's the same with mental ill health. If we grew up on films like Children's Hour conditioning us to accept and expect miserable lives.
Or The Well of Loneliness.

Someone on the other thread mentioned the Llangolen ladies who are such a good example of happy women with boundaries.
Martina Navratilova is maybe the modern equivalent in terms of role models?

The issue is that 'lesbian' is now a dirty word. The posts have been all over social media that any female person naming themselves lesbian is a transphobic hag, because any nice and politically acceptable female would term themselves as 'queer'. Saying you're 'lesbian' if you're female implies that you're one of those appalling people who thinks you have a right to a sexuality that excludes male bodies, which is... well, just get the kindling and the flaming torch.

The only people now allowed to say they're lesbian and be celebrated for it are males, who have systematically targeted, taken over and reconfigured everything they could find anywhere that was labelled 'lesbian' or 'women' to make the point of woman being All About Them and never allowing women to have anything at all that wasn't about them properly and virtuously centering male born people. (Hence many, many lesbian groups having disappeared off the radar and gone underground to escape.)

So there's now a double bind: lesbian now DOES mean someone male born and trans, because that's the only allowably celebratable kind of lesbian, so yes, it now means T. But also lesbian is a rather nasty, dirty word, so it's very important on lesbian visibility day to never mention lesbians . While making it clear you celebrate the T.

And this, dear reader, is how you disappear up your own arse in pursuit of trying to make a male supremacist anti-woman agenda sound like a really nice, positive, progressive thing.

According the 'Diva Survey' hmm (groundbreaking research into the lives of LGBTQI women), "86% of LGBTQI women are aware of media coverage about the transphobic attitudes of a small group of lesbians". Of course this is accompanied by a quote of "trans women are women".

As per usual then, the only lesbians that matter are the ones who are not female homosexuals? Other lesbians are nasty bigots who should learn to love cock

You really don’t want to see who they have as the poster person for the 100 on twitter today. Your lazy little woman eggshell skills won’t be able to take it...

And this, dear reader, is how you disappear up your own arse in pursuit of trying to make a male supremacist anti-woman agenda sound like a really nice, positive, progressive thing.

Why is it so seemingly impossible for penis-bearers, however they identify, to leave lesbians* alone?

*standard definition

You really don’t want to see who they have as the poster person for the 100 on twitter today. Your lazy little woman eggshell skills won’t be able to take it...

Oh no.......................

A-plus trolling then!

My eggshell skills are quite good , my eggshell skull might explode though.

I asked daughter about lesbians with penises this week. she informed me that all her lesbian friends were about the person not the genitals (these are young teens). I mentioned ‘pan’ and got told to stop it, Don’t I know it has changed? I asked who changed it? Them apparently... sigh.

It doesn’t seem to matter whether it is taught in school, I know she hasn’t had any lessons around this yet as I have checked. She understands biology cannot change. This is coming from discussions with her friends who learn it off the internet.

Oh yes witches, oh yes. But the upside is that I suspect it’s not all going to plan...

‘What I have learned off the internet’ there’s a thesis on there somewhere (for psychology or sociology)

Yes. There is a very good thesis there. And a very successful and insidious program to be honest.

And It has been a successful and insidious program ...

What is "the 100" please? I've tried to search but drawn a blank...

she informed me that all her lesbian friends were about the person not the genitals (these are young teens).

Makes me so angry.

Who benefits from teaching young girls that they are mean and bad for giving into feelings of homosexuality or acting on them? That they must always swiftly justify it to themselves and everyone else as being all about 'the person' as the required virtue signal to prevent being scolded and shunned for being homosexual?

Who benefits from training young girls that it is unacceptable to be homosexual, because this means they are denying their bodies to males?

Males.

Male supremacism, male entitlement on crack and indoctrination of girls to end them being homosexual and denying their bodies to males who want them. And this brainwashing and grooming of girls is happening in fucking schools.