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"My 15 yr old trans son is going through menopause - and I'm so proud of him"

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bettybeans · 18/04/2020 02:49

http://www.essentialkids.com.au/health/health-wellbeing/my-15yearold-transgender-son-is-going-through-menopause--and-im-so-proud-of-him-20200416-h1nfe0

Christ almighty. I have been trying very hard not to go in heavy on parents of trans kids who make decisions that I simply don't understand but this whole situation just brought out absolute fury. The way she speaks about this process just enrages and saddens me in a way I can't adequately articulate. It's quite simply terrifying. I feel like I'm reading about a baptism or something.

This kid didn't stand a chance and it's absolutely heartbreaking.

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HorseRadishFemish · 19/04/2020 11:00

Anyone.whos in their thirties now with kids surely grew up in the generation of " stop being so ridiculous" "pack it in" and " if sue jumped off a cliff would you do it?"

Excellent point. I'd add "don't go anywhere near your uncle Nigel, he's a bit peculiar" and being able to call out creepy male behaviour as creepy without being called a chuffing bigot!

MrsDoylesTeaBags · 19/04/2020 11:16

It is strange how things seem to have regressed so much and stangely I think social media has made it worse. Its a great tool for bringing people together but there seems to be this weird phenomena where all girls and all boy seem almost identical. Anything out of the norm seems odd and standards seem really high even for young girls and boys.

For example even a few years ago if you went abroad you could almost tell people's nationality by the way they dress / style their hair etc, now everyone has very similar styles which is a bit sad I think, we seem to have lost something there.

MoleSmokes · 19/04/2020 11:16

Early-onset Alzheimer's Disease might be something else for young, female transitioners and their parents to consider as a possibility.

Twice as many women as men develop Alzheimer's Disease. There is evidence to suggest that the onset of Alzheimer's in women is due to hormonal brain changes at menopause, at whatever age and for whatever reason menopause occurs.

"Many of the symptoms of menopause hot flashes, night sweats, insomnia, memory lapses, depression and anxiety start in the brain. How exactly does menopause impact cognitive health? Sharing groundbreaking findings from her research, neuroscientist Lisa Mosconi reveals how decreasing hormonal levels affect brain aging -- and shares simple lifestyle changes you can make to support lifelong brain health."

www.ted.com/talks/lisa_mosconi_how_menopause_affects_the_brain

Dr. Lisa Mosconi, PhD, is the Director of the Women’s Brain Initiative and Associate Director of the Alzheimer’s Prevention Clinic at Weill Cornell Medical College (WCMC)/NewYork-Presbyterian Hospital, where she serves as an Associate Professor of Neuroscience in Neurology and Radiology. She is also an adjunct faculty member at the Department of Psychiatry at New York University (NYU) School of Medicine, and t the Department of Nutrition at NYU Steinhardt School of Nutrition and Public Health.

Formerly, Dr. Mosconi was an Assistant Professor of the NYU Department of Psychiatry, where she founded and was the director of the Nutrition & Brain Fitness Lab, and served as the director of the Family History of Alzheimer’s disease research program.

Dr. Mosconi holds a PhD degree in Neuroscience and Nuclear Medicine, and is a certified Integrative Nutritionist and holistic healthcare practitioner.

Her research is well known regarding the early detection of Alzheimer’s disease in at-risk individuals, especially women, using brain imaging techniques such as positron emission tomography (PET) and magnetic resonance imaging (MRI). She is passionately interested in how risk of memory loss and Alzheimer’s disease can be mitigated, if not prevented through the combination of appropriate medical care and lifestyle modifications involving diet, nutrition, physical and intellectual fitness.

Dr. Mosconi has published over 100 peer-reviewed papers in prestigious medical journals, including Nature Medicine, the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences USA, the Journal of the Medical Association and the British Medical Journal; several book chapters in scientific books including Imaging the Aging Brain (Oxford University Press), Brain Imaging: Translational tools for CNS drug discovery, development and treatment (Elsevier) and the New Encyclopedia of Neuroscience (Elsevier).

Over the course of her career, she has received several fellowships, Federal and non-Federal grants, as well as private donations to support her research, as well as scientific awards including the Young Investigator in Neurosciences Award (Society for Nuclear Medicine), two Best Clinical Investigation prizes (Springer, the Society for Nuclear Medicine, the European Association of Nuclear Medicine), and two Most Cited Paper of the year awards (Springer and European Association of Nuclear Medicine).

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HorseRadishFemish · 19/04/2020 11:27

ThePKR - yes, that's a much better title.

SarahTancredi · 19/04/2020 11:28

It is strange how things seem to have regressed so much and stangely I think social media has made it worse

Good or bad our parents didnt indulge it. You got up got dressed went to school. Not everything was great but in a way not having time to indulge in whether or not you were non binary or not basically meant you were free to channel your anger and feelings about perceived Injustices Into being able to come up with coherent arguments in a class debate where "it hurts my feelings " wouldn't cut it.

You were far to busy doing homework or helping do chores to sit around In your room.trying to validate yourself.

If you managed to progress to level " you arent going out like that" you slammed a door or two had an argument and that was the end of it. Our parents would not tolerate threats to hurt yourself if they didnt let you do stuff.

Binterested · 19/04/2020 11:41

Yes somehow in trying to listen to children we’ve banded a lot of vulnerable young people a lot of power including power over others.

SarahTancredi · 19/04/2020 11:44

They simultaneously know more about maths and science than we ever will but cannot deal with life itself

Winesalot · 19/04/2020 12:09

Having a look back through the archives of this author’s articles, I question if being the subject of articles in the public domain effects the teen’s wish to continue their transition. I was the child of a parent who wrote about me in the local paper (very small audience) and I hated it.

It made me feel like I was on display and in a way had to authenticate what was written. It may not effect them at all, but it certainly effected me that way.

I didn’t read many of her articles, but this one also stood out.

www.essentialkids.com.au/health/relationships/why-im-letting-my-teen-pierce-whatever-he-wants-20190716-h1g9og

SarahTancredi · 19/04/2020 12:16

Anyone with a teenager knows that any boost in their self-esteem or positive feelings about their looks aren't easy to come by. What an easy gift to give him

I'm struck by this paragraph. It's like constantly feeding a kid to keep them.quiet or buying a kid stuff to make them happy. So much focus on placating a child. Sooner or later they have to be told no. Sooner or later you have to let them get on with kicking off because they need to learn to deal with the feelings they have, they need to learn that no means no, or that they cant always have whT they want etc. Stop being such a push over parent then playing the victim when someone else has the guts to do what you wont. Say no.

nauticant · 19/04/2020 12:20

As a default, whenever I see one of these parents pushing the ideology I think "What's in it for you?"

This parent is someone whose livelihood is selling lifestyles and selling articles.

Aesopfable · 19/04/2020 12:31

Absolutely nauticant these parents are almost gleeful in their boast of having a ‘trans child’. It becomes something they can announce to the world as their own special thing - not about their child but themselves.

‘Let me tell you how proud I am’
‘I will tell you how I feel’
‘I did this, I read the literature after the event, I fed him vitamins’
‘What a marvellous parent I am’

Winesalot · 19/04/2020 12:41

And I want them to know that when it comes to their bodies, they are the only ones who make the decisions’.

And if he changes his mind, he can remove the piercings, with only the faintest scar leaving a clue of what was there before. And all scars tell a story

Again, I find this problematic when you look at the recent article. It is almost like the parallel is: put on puberty blockers because ultimately this is their decision... and well, vitamins to counter that brittle bone issue that we will downplay and minimize... it is just another scar. Or maybe I am making too many leaps between the articles. The parenting seems to follow this track though.

Winesalot · 19/04/2020 12:48

Or maybe I am just reacting to the undertone of any parent who says ‘ piercings after the one in each earlobe are at your own discretion after you reach 18’ is not a cool parent allowing self expression.

Oliversmumsarmy · 19/04/2020 12:56

I am under the impression that a lot of these children (especially girls) are on the spectrum and maybe I am over stepping but does anyone get the impression from these parents that they are almost gleeful in that they can now say their child is trans rather than their child is autistic.

It is though the label of trans is preferable than having an autistic child.

I have never heard of anyone saying their autistic child is now trans.

Almost like trans makes the autism go away.

SarahTancredi · 19/04/2020 12:58

Well according to so called " experts" it does Hmm

Whistleblowers from the tavistock claim.there are high numbers if autistic girls, they suspect some parents are homophobic and in one case they suspected abuse from the father.

Being a teen lesbian must suck these days. Under pressure to accept penis. Not as cool as trans etc

Goosefoot · 19/04/2020 13:21

Good or bad our parents didnt indulge it. You got up got dressed went to school.

The trend for parents to placate kids and to pretty much let them have their way about everything has a lot to answer for in terms of mental health. It turns out grandmothers were right, it's good for kids to have some frustrations and stress.

One thing that has struck me is that the emphasis on letting kids wear what they want and feel most comfortable in has backfired to a significant degree. There seems to be this idea that kids need to be able to wear what they want in able to express their authentic selves, and I'm afraid the idea that GNC kids need to do so has played into this a fair bit.

Looking back, as a tomboy who hated dresses, the situations where I was expected to suck it up and wear one anyway were not bad for me. Or where I had to wear hand-me-downs - I remember once I was given a pink snowsuit. They were expensive and no way was my mother going to buy me a different one. It wasn't all the time, but it was often enough that I felt hard done by. But the learning experience as pretty clear - you might not like what you were wearing, but it doesn't really change who you are. And it was possible to cope with discomfort light tights that never really stayed up or scratchy things knit by grandma.

SarahTancredi · 19/04/2020 13:27

It wasn't all the time, but it was often enough that I felt hard done by. But the learning experience as pretty clear - you might not like what you were wearing, but it doesn't really change who you are

Precisely. I mean u dressed up for granny sometimes and tough crap. They knew you hated it but it was once in a while and you could go home and change into your cycling shorts afterwards. Everyone was in the same boat. Boys and girls.

Sometimes you just had to suck it up and do what you are told. The world didnt end. No one burst into flames. And if you cried like a baby you got a slap.

Hormonecrazyhell · 19/04/2020 13:35

I can’t/won’t even read it. The mother should be prosecuted in my opinion

forsucksfake · 19/04/2020 13:42

Hormone, I agree with you. The saddest thing about this whole gender ideology mess is that the "detrans" blame themselves. This mother actually wrote these words: "Obviously, I'm here to guide them and not let them do anything too crazy". Where is the guidance? What the hell would she characterise as "crazy"?

Read more: http://www.essentialkids.com.au/health/relationships/why-im-letting-my-teen-pierce-whatever-he-wants-20190716-h1g9og#ixzz6K3oGTzGY

HorseRadishFemish · 19/04/2020 13:58

What the hell would she characterise as "crazy"?

I'd take a guess that having an openly gay child might be beyond the pale for that mother and she would regard that as the child doing something "crazy"...

Aesopfable · 19/04/2020 14:58

‘Being one’s true self’ is ultimately just learning to be selfish, to put one’s own desires before all others. And in the identity world this is to be celebrated and idolised .

But again, we have another overlap with autism. For many autistic people they have difficulty seeing things from other people’s perspectives. So if something is good for them then it must be good for others too, or vice versa. What they think must be right. And this is reinforced by a tendency to very black and white thinking. Obviously some have more self awareness than others in this regards but often the loudest voices are those with the most rigid thinking and least able to consider other perspectives.

Aesopfable · 19/04/2020 15:05

And often autistic children have autistic parents, often undiagnosed, but it could be this combination that drives some of these mother/child destructive behaviours. It is an autistic parent who thinks in fixed black and white gender roles and develops a special interest in trans when their child does not fit those roles.

I have often seen autistic adults condemning so called ‘autism warrior mums’ without realising many of these mums are also autistic and it is this that is driving them.

Goosefoot · 19/04/2020 16:25

Yes, that's certainly the pattern I've seen with a few individuals around me.

fotofoto · 19/04/2020 17:42

The world has gone mad..but maybe I m old fashioned

TheWolfAtTheDoor · 19/04/2020 18:29

Funny how women wanted this very thing to be free from male influence but now that you have what you petition for you suddenly have to have a scapegoat for your own stupidity, so you blame the ones you're against.

"People nowadays want all the power, and none of the responsibility that goes along with it."

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