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Dr Adrian Harrop (a trans activist) just asked for screen shots of anti trans statements posted here at MN

405 replies

ForbiddenFromNaples · 16/04/2020 12:48

Posted his request about 5 minutes ago (or at least thats when I saw it) on twitter.

Im not even particularly anti trans, but when I see attempts to whip up mobs like that, I feel that hes making people anti trans.

Sort makes me want to resort to making insidious dog whistle anti trans rhetoric just to fuck with him.

Leaving his trans stance aside, going by the rest of his twitter offerings, hes definitely not the person I would want as a GP. Lacks decorum and gravitas.

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Michelleoftheresistance · 16/04/2020 16:03

Bravo Arla, that's the most sensible response I've heard yet.

R0wantrees · 16/04/2020 16:04

twitter.com/mimmymum/status/1250786569436434433

This is the former Mermaids employee who attempted to bring charges of 'transphobia' against Miranda Yardley who is transsexual?

'Regina v Miranda Yardley: More DARVO from Helen Islan'
POSTED ON 3RD MARCH 2019 by Miranda
(extract)
"In the Daily Mail today “Britain’s first transgender hate crime trial is halted after one day as judge says ‘there is no case and never was a case“, the complainant against me Helen Islan tries to distance herself from the proceedings which were brought in her name:

‘The decision to prosecute was made by the CPS, not me personally and I accept the verdict of the court.’

It does not surprise me she is trying to wash herself of responsibility. Having tried to blackmail the court by saying she was unprepared to give evidence unless her name was subjected to a press restrictions order, her evidence on Friday appeared to me to be incredibly dishonest as she attempted to distance herself from anything and everything she has said and done: apparently never having tweeted under her real name, it was ‘esoteric search engines’ which created and posted tweets under the name ‘Helen Islan’, as shown by screen captures of these tweets in the evidence bundle. In spite of admitting in her statement and even evidence given to open court that she was a volunteer with Mermaids, getting her to acknowledge anything was met with denial of the facts, attacks on my character and reversals… now where have we seen that before?

The upshot is, her evidence was like witnessing a tooth extraction. I suspect the judge agreed, from the way he was rolling his eyes and having to tell Islan to stop wasting the court’s time waffling and just answer the questions. Islan was so unreliable as a witness, so truculent, I would not have been surprised should she have been indicted for perjury.

Anyway, back to the original quote which I will reproduce again so that we are clear as to Islan’s words:

‘The decision to prosecute was made by the CPS, not me personally and I accept the verdict of the court.’

On 10 August last year, I received from Islan’s solicitors Mishcon de Reya a three page legal letter threatening me with a High Court injunction, action for defamation and a costs order. This letter was I believe funded by the Mishcon de Reya ‘Pink Law‘ initiative, so again Islan benefitted from LGBT without herself being a part of this world.

What a hypocrite." (continues)
mirandayardley.com/en/regina-v-miranda-yardley-more-darvo-from-helen-islan/

Mail on Sunday article referenced above:

'Britain's first transgender hate crime trial is halted after one day as judge says 'there is no case and never was a case'

(extract)
"Britain's first transgender hate crime prosecution has been halted by a judge who declared: ‘There is no case and never was a case.’

Miranda Yardley, 51, was put ‘through ten months of hell’ after being accused of harassing a transgender activist on Twitter.

But District Judge John Woollard dismissed the case after a one-day hearing, saying there was simply no evidence. " (continues)

"The hearing at Basildon Magistrates’ Court in Essex last Friday brought into sharp focus the complex and often rancorous divisions within the transgender community.

On one side was Yardley, an accountant, who describes himself as a transsexual and identifies as a man, even though he underwent gender reassignment to become a woman ten years ago.

Despite his own experience, his contention is that individuals cannot change sex – and this has drawn fierce criticism on social media.

Giving evidence via video link was his accuser, Helen Islan, who is married with children and works with the trans advocacy group Mermaids, which campaigns for children who want to change gender.

The court heard that one of her teenage children is transgender. The spat began with a discussion – joined by other Twitter users – about self-identification, which allows people to be recognised as transgender simply by declaring themselves male or female.

Concerns were also expressed about how the powerful trans lobby was allegedly eroding women’s rights by allowing transgender women, born male, into female-only spaces. This, it was argued, was a threat to women.

But using a pseudonym, Ms Islan accused her opponents of ‘spreading hysteria’ and it was at this point the exchanges grew increasingly aggressive. (continues)

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6764763/Britains-transgender-hate-crime-trial-halted-one-day.html

Dr Adrian Harrop (a trans activist) just asked for screen shots of anti trans statements posted here at MN
missyB1 · 16/04/2020 16:05

Thanks DrudgeJedd that’s A great response from Arla.

KaronAVyrus · 16/04/2020 16:07

Well done Arla.

missyB1 · 16/04/2020 16:10

I would also like to know how he is still practicing as a GP? Why would his profession tolerate all this attention seeking nonsense? He wouldn’t last 5 minutes at our local Trust hospital, they just wouldn’t allow that kind of behaviour from one of their employees, they have policies about what kind of standards employees are expected to uphold on the internet. He would be regarded as bringing his profession and the organisation into disrepute.

ahumanfemale · 16/04/2020 16:12

Great response from Arla.

Imagine the trouble they'd have if cows started identifying as bulls. Or bulls decided they deserved to be in the milking shed because they had a female soul. 😂 It's actually quite hilarious! Arla's business model - and that of their suppliers/producers - RELIES ON BIOLOGY! 😂

Nelliana · 16/04/2020 16:14

I expect they'll be coming on here themselves soon under fake names, spouting transphobia, so they can blame Mumsnet for it and screen shot their 'evidence'. I'm fairly certain that's happened before with supposedly 'new' members who are really just twitter trans activists. Pretty disturbing really, the lengths some will go to in order to shut women down.
Taps foot, and waits...

Lollygaggles · 16/04/2020 16:23

Yep. That's the irony isn't it? There's no transphobia on here because any hint of it is deleted by Mods. So the only screen grabs they can get are ones they've planted and which would have been deleted minutes later. It's very dishonest, but anybody with an ounce of sense would know that already.

PicturesOfCats · 16/04/2020 16:25

Has anyone tweeted Arla the video of Posie owning Harrop on Sky?

Is that the one where he claimed women were appropriating the word woman Confused

BentNeckLady · 16/04/2020 16:25

He he an actual Doctor? Surely not.

R0wantrees · 16/04/2020 16:25

So Dr Adrian Harrop has an interesting 'gang' he calls on, presumably who share his stated goal?

"having mumsnet lose its main source of funding - ie from advertising and sponsorship deals - and being driven further towards financial ruin is entirely in line with my objectives - thanks"

Hmm

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www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3660092-Adrian-Harrop-another-one-for-the-GMC#prettyPhoto/2/

MsMcWibble · 16/04/2020 16:27

Oh Adrian, what's up? Feeling ignored? No actual women to scare?

Dr Adrian Harrop (a trans activist) just asked for screen shots of anti trans statements posted here at MN
Lollygaggles · 16/04/2020 16:30

Well done Arla. Wise decision to not align yourself with claptrap merchants.

KaronAVyrus · 16/04/2020 16:30

Poor old Harrop only has one friend and a career in tatters 😭 the only joy he has left is his full time hobby of hating women.

MsMcWibble · 16/04/2020 16:32

Another couple of blasts from the past:

Dr Adrian Harrop (a trans activist) just asked for screen shots of anti trans statements posted here at MN
Dr Adrian Harrop (a trans activist) just asked for screen shots of anti trans statements posted here at MN
corlan · 16/04/2020 16:33

Harrop's a clown but great response from Arla.

MrsWednesdayteatime · 16/04/2020 16:34

Dear Arla

If you're reading this thread, I love your products, my Son can't do lactose, so your loctofree milk is perfect.

I used to buy Flora, but have boycotted their products and now use your Lactofree spreadable too, it's lovely on toast.

I'm sure you divide your dairy cattle herds on the basis of sex not gender, that seems a sensible thing to do ♥️

BiologyIsReal · 16/04/2020 16:35

Actually crack on twittering Harrop. While you are doing that you aren't treating women and that has to be a good thing.

LittleCabbage · 16/04/2020 16:37

I’m glad I stopped using lurpak last month then.

I didn't realise Arla made Lurpak. Thank goodness they understand biology. I love Lurpak and would hate to have to give it up!

MoleSmokes · 16/04/2020 16:38

YogaFaker - "And I rarely see anything transphobic on MN. Look at the current thread started by Keira Bell. Nothing but good wishes & respect."

Indeed. May be no coincidence that this latest attack on Mumsnet by Horrible Harrop and his evil minions comes just when everyone is being so welcoming to Keira.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3881347-Keira-Bell-from-Tavi-case-here-AMA

It's hard to say who deranged trans activists hate most, but detransitioners who have been to hell and back are a good bet for top of the list.

Can you imagine anything worse than being a female detransitioner needing help and support and Harrop was your GP??

Someone did a tally months ago and I think there were over 30 complaints about him still stuck in the machinery at the GMC!

Datun · 16/04/2020 16:43

"Our advertising ... is not a tool to support nor boycott any outlet".

A) of course it isn't.

B) and this is all any advertising needs to say.

Datun · 16/04/2020 16:44

*advertiser

Soontobe60 · 16/04/2020 16:45

He’s got a bit of a superiority complex hasn’t he?

Dr Adrian Harrop (a trans activist) just asked for screen shots of anti trans statements posted here at MN
NotAGirl · 16/04/2020 16:46

Thats a good clear statement by Arla, they really shouldn't have to get involved in this debate (unless they want to).

Soontobe60 · 16/04/2020 16:47

I asked him why he isn’t supporting the NHS at the moment, instead of starting this silly vendetta.