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Men pushing in in queues and not social distancing.

741 replies

HeIenaDove · 03/04/2020 20:32

I know in the scheme of things this is only small but its the bloody entitlement that gets to me.

When the new Coronavirus Bill came in last Thursday two men used the 2 m gap to try to push in front while i was queuing outside Tesco.

Re, social distancing , i try i really try to stay 2m from people at all times on the rare occasions but the amount of men who walk right next to me or towards me KNOWING that i will move.

This afternoon was the final straw Queuing outside Sainsburys observing the 2 m rule i had to wait until the queue moved to where the trolleys were . There was no way i could get to them BEFORE queuing and observe the 2m rule so i had to wait in the queue before i got to them. I leant across to put my pound in the slot and the FOUR men queuing behind me jumped the queue by moving along in front.

Im so fed up with the entitlement Every time its been a man EVERY TIME. Ive not seen this from women at all .

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TheProdigalKittensReturn · 08/04/2020 12:20

I need to practice my tutting, since we've been reliably informed that it works!

Datun · 08/04/2020 12:20

My question is, wouldn’t most of you be offended if the same thread was started but with women in the title rather than men

Try it. But since female privilege and female entitlement isn't a thing (as a class), I don't suppose it will get many posts.

R0wantrees · 08/04/2020 12:39

This thread serves only to bolster confirmation bias.

Some people's confimation biases will no doubt have been bolstered.

Confirmation bias is a powerful thing.

FloralBunting · 08/04/2020 12:44

I'm still tickled. Feminists being airily dismissed or angrily told off for participating in a thread about observed male behaviour on a feminist focused section of a large chat board.

Still, it is keeping most of the really boring contributors focused, so it is proving useful as well as illustrative and funny.

Hearhoovesthinkzebras · 08/04/2020 13:10

So far I've seen

A woman screaming at me that I would have sided with the Nazis because I wouldn't sell her five 1kg bags of pasta

Another woman throw an 18 pack of toilet rolls at me because I wouldn't sell her that plus two packs of nine toilet rolls

Another woman yell, swear and be abusive because I followed the limits on multiple items of shopping that she was buying

A man and a woman who wanted to buy eight packets of paracetamol and who insisted it was ok because they were buying them for other people. When I explained the limit was two packets they asked to buy them in separate transactions. I explained that they couldn't do it, the man accepted it, the woman hit the roof. That time I was being a little Hitler apparently.

Shall I go on? Plenty more examples. But sure, only men that have been behaving badly isn't it?

TheProdigalKittensReturn · 08/04/2020 13:21

Did you need a link to the coronavirus section for all your non feminist analysis related needs?

R0wantrees · 08/04/2020 13:22

Its not all about you Hooves

Hearhoovesthinkzebras · 08/04/2020 13:25

R0wantrees

Oh I'm sorry. I thought you were advocating a discussion in order to identify patterns of behaviour exhibited during these unprecedented times? Because, as you said, it's important to identify them

Hearhoovesthinkzebras · 08/04/2020 13:28

And it's funny how the op, and her two anecdotes, wasn't told it's not all about you isn't it?

But no bias on here at all. Nope. Only open minded discussion happening here.

FloralBunting · 08/04/2020 13:28

Stamp foot, fold arms, grumpy grumpy grumpy.

TheProdigalKittensReturn · 08/04/2020 13:30

I never knew it was possible to pout so intensely that it could be seen over the internet without the involvement of a camera, but there you go.

FloralBunting · 08/04/2020 13:32

It is a mystery why we would take the OP at relatively face value, but not really take seriously the poster who only ever comes to FWR to post anti-feminist diatribes. One of those strange situations for which there may never be an answer.

TheProdigalKittensReturn · 08/04/2020 13:38

Magnets, how do they work?

(I realize that 90% of FWR will not get this reference but hey.)

R0wantrees · 08/04/2020 13:40

Oh I'm sorry. I thought you were advocating a discussion in order to identify patterns of behaviour exhibited during these unprecedented times? Because, as you said, it's important to identify them

No Hooves

I think it is important to recognise behaviour patterns generally when there is detrimental impact to others.

I speculated as to what I though may have been the OP's intention with regards discussion on the thread.

I have observed some recognisable patterns of behaviour on the thread by some posters which makes discussion difficult in predictable ways.

plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose

Datun · 08/04/2020 13:40

It certainly is, floral. Along with the enigma of why feminists would look at male behaviour through a lens of male entitlement and male privilege.

TinselAngel · 08/04/2020 13:42

I really dislike Morris Dancing but I don't go on Morris dancing forums and tell them they're all doing it wrong.

Hearhoovesthinkzebras · 08/04/2020 13:46

I think it is important to recognise behaviour patterns generally when there is detrimental impact to others

So you don't think women shoppers being abusive to checkout operators is having a detrimental impact on those staff then?

Hearhoovesthinkzebras · 08/04/2020 13:47

Along with the enigma of why feminists would look at male behaviour through a lens of male entitlement and male privilege

Is it "male behaviour" though? Why isn't it "human behaviour" if women are doing exactly the same behaviour?

R0wantrees · 08/04/2020 13:49

I think it is important to recognise behaviour patterns generally when there is detrimental impact to others

So you don't think women shoppers being abusive to checkout operators is having a detrimental impact on those staff then?

Its really interesting Hooves that you might choose to suggest this.
It only speaks of you.

Datun · 08/04/2020 13:51

Is it "male behaviour" though?

Yes. It was men.

Hearhoovesthinkzebras · 08/04/2020 13:52

Really Rowan? How are you recognising the abusive behaviour of women towards shop workers then? Only all I'm seeing is attempts to shut me up, mock me and belittle me.

No recognition of the abusive behaviour at all.

Hearhoovesthinkzebras · 08/04/2020 13:53

Yes. It was men.

In the ops example. But not exclusive to men.

My examples were of female behaviour then?

Justhadathought · 08/04/2020 13:56

Along with the enigma of why feminists would look at male behaviour through a lens of male entitlement and male privilege

If that is your definition and application of feminism, then that is obviously what you will tend to do; but it is not the sole definition or application of feminism. And if if was then it would give equal validity to someone who chose to look at everything you said or did through a lens of white, western, middle class, 'cis' privilege?

I reject both of those stances, myself. It is far too inter-sectionalist in its rigidity for my liking; and life tends to far more nuance than that.

Justhadathought · 08/04/2020 13:57

Life, and people too, are far more nuanced than that

FloralBunting · 08/04/2020 13:58

🤣😂🤣

I just can't. I'm not really trying very hard today, granted, but still.