Women! You're just not pulling your weight

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Some really vile misogyny here from Jane Fae. "Enjoy".

This has surprised me, I knew he was really unpleasant, but I didn't know that he was very stupid.

It is. Sadly for Jane, women just need to pee on a stick if they want to, and can say "fuck that" and leave without donating any blood. Nothing to get excited about.

I think you may be rather underestimating the range of things that gets some individuals of the y chromosome having persuasion excited. Especially when they're quite capable of adding additional force to the process in their own minds.

This is a person who apparently thinks that elderly women being admitted to hospital with coronavirus related pneumonia are going to wink coyly at the doctor and say "but I'm only 35, you handsome devil, and have been for 40 years" while giggling and fluttering their eyelashes, presumably in between the coughing fits.

You could park a jumbo jet in the space between this person's idea of what being a woman is like and the reality.

This is a person who apparently thinks that elderly women being admitted to hospital with coronavirus related pneumonia are going to wink coyly at the doctor and say "but I'm only 35, you handsome devil, and have been for 40 years" while giggling and fluttering their eyelashes, presumably in between the coughing fits.

To be fair that's probably what Fae Faeself would do.

I just checked to see if the tweet had been deleted. I had a little glimmer of hope that on a day when two women nurses died of Covid 19 a tweet about ‘cis women not pulling their weight‘ would have been deleted.

Totally agree with the posts upthread. As we all know, very few NHS staff have been tested. The number is even fewer in the care sector. However, many of these workers will have been affected because of viral load (as I understand it anyway). The likelihood is that most of these workers will be women because women make up such a disproportionate section of the workforce. It also needs pointing out that for the past 25 years in the UK more women than men have begun medical training. Assuming that doctors are overwhelmingly male is a bad case of gender stereotyping.

And what the fuck has Fae been doing in the current pandemic? Apart from gross misogyny. So angry with this wankerbastard.

Reading that makes my skin crawl.

This individual makes my skin crawl.

You'd think that by their 60s most people would have noticed that the majority of people who stick tubes in you etc when needed in a medical context are female.

Refusal to go to see the doctor for preventative care is associated with a sex, and it's not the one that can get pregnant.

If sufficient numbers of these “cis women” Fae knows about had been successfully amending their age on all official docs, that might change the way the stats look. The stats show that for the same age, women are less likely to die. So did these “cis women”, who died dp all that fraudulent documentation creation and system hacking to claim to be older?

I'd guess that when Fae says forced pregnancy tests they aren't thinking of peeing on a stick, but a scene that would fit in their beloved torture porn genre.

Yes, “forced pregnancy tests” conjured up unpleasant images for me. I don’t know much about the CV stats, so I am not choosing to tweet about them. I wouldn’t want misinformed commentary out there. Fae is choosing to tweet this unpleasant stuff. It’s not like a BBC interviewer forced Fae to come up with an explanation. They have chosen to tweet the world for instance that most of the relevant roles are done by men (!not “cis men”, Fae said men).

The point about age is absolutely ridiculous. I don't have to call a press conference at work to announce to all the young people that I'm as old as they think I am, maybe older! BUT when I"m asked over the phone by the doctor what my date of birth is, I just give it up without a moment's hesitancy, as do we all. Find me a sick ''cis woman'' who has lied to her doctor about her age when she needs medical care !

''I just checked to see if the tweet had been deleted. I had a little glimmer of hope that on a day when two women nurses died of Covid 19 a tweet about ‘cis women not pulling their weight‘ would have been deleted.''

Yes, beggars belief that it was allowed to remain.

Interesting that 'men" doesn't need addendums, isn't it?

What would even be the point of lying about your age in a "coy" (insert vomiting here) way to someone who's about to see you looking like absolute hell? I suppose women are probably meant to die in an attractive way, coughing delicately and looking ever so appealingly vulnerable.

Oh dear god what absolute tripe!
Lying about our age?
How? Why?
To register with a GP you need to provide the usual proof of identity.
In a hospital setting its on your wristband/notes/computer .
Fae thinks we should lie and be ashamed of our age .
Usual misogyny and age discrimination against women 🙄
Its bizarre "I am a women but not one like you "

Fae thinks women are all narcissist, stupid liars.

....

I don’t lie about my age

But if i did i would lie the other way

I look ok for 50 (my age)

But I look fucking Awesome For 60

Fae thinks women are all narcissist, stupid liars.

Within abuse dynamics, false allegations may be understood/recognised as projections/admissions.

September 2018 Fae organised a TRA conference in London. Dawn Butler MP (shadow Women & Equalities minister) was the keynote speaker.

OP TheHarpySings wrote:

'We’re Still Here Conference 8th September: A report from the inside'
(extract)
First off, I’m a regular poster, have been here for years under various usernames, it I’m posting here on a name change as I don’t want this traced to me.

On 8th September there was a conference held in London a Bloomsbury Baptist Church which was called We’re Still Here, which featured a variety of panels and workshops and was attended by many prominent people in the pro-GRA reform camp.

I decided to attend to find out what was being said as it was clear that they did not want anyone to attend that wasn’t a TRA or an ally.

What follows are my notes from the day. But first a few notes on attendance:

There were probably 80-100 people in attendance. Overwhelmingly white. Mainly older transwomen. A couple of transmen. Some Mermaids delegates. Some fellow travellers/ allies. And me.

Okay. So here’s my notes (continues)

2. Education Panel:

There were 4 panelists and I didn’t get all their names. One was called something like “Zed”, who is NB (female) and works in a school. They want a trans ally in everyone school.

Anna Carlisle was also on the panel- she works at Goldsmiths and is a colleague of Natascha Kennedy.

This panel’s recommendations was to get the pro-gender extremist philosophy in at school governor level and find allies.

Some of their examples of where policy was good but inclusive practise was not good were hilarious. Apparently one of the panelists (who works for a charity) went to a school with an amazingly liberal dress code but none of the kids violated gender norms… so obviously there was a problem!

They want every single policy to be “inclusive”.

Jane Fae chipped in saying how sad she was that Natascha Kennedy got “monstered” in the Times that weekend and asked what could they do about “safety” re: universities with “known transphobic academics” like Kathleen Stock.

One panellist said naming and shaming doesn’t do any good. Anna Carlisle (NK’s colleague) said she was interested in what management’s response to the Times story would be.

One of the other panellists (a recently transitioned TW teacher) described the current events as a “war”.

Zed talked about offering a “safe space” for trans kids who maybe couldn’t be trans at home.. either because parents are unaware or unsupportive so the kids change at school and essentially live a double life.

Helen Webbeley (!!!!) then said she’d seen so much suffering of trans kids and asked about how to help kids who were trans who couldn’t face going to school.

Mermaids are apparently interested in researching the crossover with trans/ autism and also sexual orientation. Also “queering” PE as a lot of trans kids don’t get involved and spend a lot of time online.

Notable misogynist Adrian Harrop then chipped in asking about Transgender Trend’s school pack (which, he was very sad face to say, is the top hit on Google) and how we can stop this sick filth getting into schools.

Anna Carlisle said the Transgender Trend pack “made her sick… it was so mean!”

Zed and another panellist said that their networks (through LGBT sectors in teaching unions) were trying to “make schools aware” not to pay attention to the TransgenderTrend packs. Apparently the Mermaids resources have been ok’d by the Human Rights Commission and will “trump” the Transgender Trend packs. (continues)

4. Equalities Act

So… there was a kind of informal meeting during lunchtime about The Equalities Act which was being run by everyone’s favourite advocate for extreme porn, Jane Fae. Edward Lord turned up, straight from a meeting with the City of London Corp. PlEASE NOTE THAT FAE AND LORD DID NOT WANT THIS SECTION TWEETED.

Edward Lord. He was dressed like Tweedledum. Or, if I’m feeling generous, a Mario Brother that doesn’t get invited to Xmas dinner anymore.

Mr Lord was very bumfaced about the Andrew Gilligan article about him in July and said that opposition to the GRA consultation just wanted to “cause mayhem.” He directly mentioned the Man Friday Hampstead Pond stuff.

Apparently “there have been no incidents of men turning up to the women’s pond but Man Friday turned up to the men’s pond and demanded admission- by force if necessary.”

As of 8/9/18, 15.5k people had completed the attitudes survey.

Lord said that TW were entitled to the protected characteristic “Woman”- he said the Gov dept on woman and equalities has confirmed this. Apparently the brave and stunning vexatious litigator Giuliana Kendall has something to do with this being confirmed.

Edward Lord is worried about the 125 elected members of the London assembly or whatever the fuck Londoners have governing the city. Not all of them are onside. He is worried that all of this is going to be discussed at committee and that “terfs are going to protest”.

Jane Fae said that JF has been in contact w/ YHA and GirlGuiding. Fae is of the opinion that the law doesn’t distinguish gender and sex. They are not defined and parliament will not define them.

The TRAs are fully prepared to take local councils to court of they try to invoke EA2010 for reasons of sex. JF was nodding at Giuliana when JF said this.

James Morton (Scottish Trans Alliance) said to be “strategic about test cases to ensure strong case law”.

Edward Lord agreed. He also said that the City of London Corp city solicitor and the Chief Exec are “strong allies”.

Regards the consultation doc put out by the City of London Corp… Lord implied that they were going to go through the answers and cherry pick the the qualitative snapshots.

One of the Mermaids mums in attendance said the “banner of concerned mothers of vulnerable children shouldn’t be captured by bigots”. Lord is meeting officers about how data is presented and is “conscious of that line of argument”

Jane Fae said the GC side are spreading a myth of predatory males- which doesn’t happen (!!! Lolz Karen White). And also spreading the myth that that TW are paedophiles (Loz Karen White x2).

Then (and Fae didn’t want this tweeted) apparently, there ARE terrible people exploiting The Equalities Act. And they are…

Man Friday
We Need To Talk
Fair Play for Women

According to Fae, all of the above have broken laws and engaged in upskirting and crotch shots of TW. Fae talked about debating Amy Desir of Man Friday about refuges. Amy talked about how female socialisation essentially stops us from refusing TW in our spaces.

JF then asked people not to tweet this next bit because it is libellous: Amy Desir took her husband into the Next changing rooms to commit voyeurism.
Fae (shouting): “Who is the pervert now?!!”

JF hopes that Amy and Man Friday are prosecuted. (continues)
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3398737-We-re-Still-Here-Conference-8th-September-A-report-from-the-inside

But if i did i would lie the other way

Big laughs at that chez horse! Thinking of trying it...

But, but huge scale and very thorough fraud to make “cis women” be recoded as older than the real age is the only explanation for statistics showing female death rates, once infected being much lower than men of the same age.
Or actual biological differences, obvs.

I don't know about blood donation, but women are asked to take a pregnancy test for many medical tests and procedures.

For blood donations, X-rays, 12-lead ECGs, multiple coil fits, and removal of extrauterine endometrium under general anaesthesia, I have been asked whether there is any chance that I could be pregnant. I have never yet been asked to take a test.

Strangely, I have never lied to a health care practitioner about my age nor my risk of pregnancy because I know that doing so is not in my best interests.

I have never yet been asked to take a test

I have once in a private hospital

Annoyingly i had my period on at the time, so the sample was mank

I had my period on at the time

That wasn't deemed sufficient evidence of not-pregnantness?

That wasn't deemed sufficient evidence of not-pregnantness

Nope

So the sample had clots and bloody wee

AND I APOLOGISED!!!

I wonder if their study of women started and ended with Jane Austen

I think Madam Defarge (Tale of Two Cities) must be their role model surely?