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A few questions for feminists

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ConservativeV8 · 19/03/2020 18:58

  1. Why is feminism so small in number? They get plenty of airtime but it isn't catching on. Women know about it so why no support?
  1. Feminists want equality of opportunity and equality of outcome but how can you have both when it's impossible? You want to give women choice, but then want exactly 50% of men and women in each industry. This can only be achieved by forcing women (and men) to do jobs they don't want to or choose to do. Explain?
  1. Why do you think the earnings difference is due to gender when time and time again it has been shown it has nothing or very little to do with it. Why feminists not take into account the 40 or so factors which affect earnings, such as men are more likely to work longer hours, do more overtime, take less holidays, work more dangerous jobs, willing to relocate, willing to commute further, etc etc?

Please discuss.

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Michelleoftheresistance · 19/03/2020 19:35

Discuss

Every time someone commands this, I get a flash of Emily Blunt saying matter of factly, "Shan't."

HQ, you could have let us play with him a little bit longer, we promise not to give him back to you too chewed.

Thinkingabout1t · 19/03/2020 19:35

I turned to this thread thinking it was a serious discussion. Quickly realised it was just a bit of tedious trolling. But as usual on Mumsnet a good comment caught my eye so I stayed, and read, and laughed, and thought "Oh that's a good point", etc. Always worth a read.

ClaraMumsnet · 19/03/2020 19:36

Sigh, going to remove this now since it seems to only be encouraging the bore.

Gizmo79 · 19/03/2020 19:36

Okay, please explain why care work is not deemed as necessary to be paid accordingly, given that the majority of carers are female.
Please explain why even now there are females earning less than their counterparts in the same jobs just because men are more willing to ask for pay rises- fairness says it should be same pay for all doing the same job.
Please explain why women are still in many countries treated as owned by males.
Please explain why women are the ones expected to the greater amount of child rearing.
Etc etc ad infinitum.
Bit boring this tbh.

Dhalandchips · 19/03/2020 19:37

Keep going...

MrsTerryPratchett · 19/03/2020 19:37

Or this @Michelleoftheresistance

A few questions for feminists
donquixotedelamancha · 19/03/2020 19:38

@ClaraMumsnet

See, please can we keep him? He's so cute.

MrsTerryPratchett · 19/03/2020 19:38

Boo Clara

OhHolyJesus · 19/03/2020 19:38

Some things never change eh? You can always tell can't you? It's a writing style. I see the same with some journalists or bloggers. Then you see the phrase "As a..." or "born..." (fill in the blanks)

Good to see there is some normality going on! To be honest if all misogyny disappeared overnight as a result of CV I'd be suspicious (and grateful) about how it came to live among us.

MrsDoylesTeaBags · 19/03/2020 19:38

THB I hated having maternity rights and I still hate having financial independance. I'm really only here for the cake recipies.

isabellerossignol · 19/03/2020 19:38

But he hasn't told us what opportunities feminists are damaging for other women!

DancelikeEmmaGoldman · 19/03/2020 19:39

Claudia Roden’s chocolate cake made with almond meal is wonderful and extremely hard to fuck up.

I can’t find her original recipe online, but this is basically it.

thejameskitchen.wordpress.com/2017/02/10/chocolate-almond-cake/

Also, I don’t buy almond meal, I grind whole almonds in the food processor. I don’t even take the skins off, it makes a more rustic cake, but the payoff is the almond meal tastes fresher. I’m sure you could use hazelnuts as well.

EoinMcLovesCakeJumper · 19/03/2020 19:39

Aww, no, let us toy with him for a bit longer. The frustration is coming off him in waves now. Can we not keep him until his mask slips and he starts calling us all Staceys?

ClaraMumsnet · 19/03/2020 19:40

Oh alright. You can only play with him for another 10 minutes though and then you all have to come in for your tea.

EoinMcLovesCakeJumper · 19/03/2020 19:41

At least leave it up for long enough that I can screenshot some of these recipes.

MrsTerryPratchett · 19/03/2020 19:42

You can only play with him for another 10 minutes though and then you all have to come in for your tea.

But muuuuuuuuuuum. Or dad, we are feminists after all.

ConservativeVA1 · 19/03/2020 19:45

I'm doing ok, but I enjoy socialising, bars, clubs, and I must adhere to the guidance our great conservative government have put forward.

No admin girls coming over to me and flirting when working from home, I like the attention and I miss it.

Other than that, it's ok, I have a Playstation 4 which I will start playing I guess until its all over.

Anyway, yes excellent point about grid girls. They did lose their jobs because of women. Women losing employment because of other women on baseless claims. Another contradiction, feminists claim female models or modelling is okay, yet don't want to see grid girls. Where does the hypocrisy end?

Discuss.

Danceswithwarthogs · 19/03/2020 19:46

Many many women are feminists, they just don’t realise it

isabellerossignol · 19/03/2020 19:47

'Admin girls' Grin

You're hilarious, I'll give you that.

FannyCann · 19/03/2020 19:48

Ooh thanks dkl55
I have a few days off and I fancy making some chocolate brownies. CakeWine

TorkTorkBam · 19/03/2020 19:49

What were his excellent points? Is this how he normally rolls? Make up some nonsense, pretend it is true and demand some women browsing a forum discuss?

terryleather · 19/03/2020 19:49

Nigella has a version of the famous Claudia Roden cake, can't find a link so here's a pic...

A few questions for feminists
A few questions for feminists
MrsDoylesTeaBags · 19/03/2020 19:50

No admin girls coming over to me and flirting when working from home, I like the attention and I miss it.

Bahahahahahahahahahahah......ahahahahahaha whoo boy, that's a good 'un

MrsTerryPratchett · 19/03/2020 19:50

Make up some nonsense, pretend it is true and demand some women browsing a forum discuss?

Yeah. The world turns, we're on the brink of a global apocalypse but trolls be trolling. It's so reassuring.

Redshoeblueshoe · 19/03/2020 19:50

Clara Grin