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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Jonathan Ross supports Glinner

145 replies

Oncewasblueandyellowtwo · 18/03/2020 00:06

Johnaton Ross has tweeted about Grahame:

I struggle to understand the opinions of intelligent men I previously admired - Jon Ronson and Billy Bragg - that strike me as tragically ill-informed and depressingly self-aggrandising. I know you are paying a heavy price for this G, but I admire and applaud you.

twitter.com/wossy/status/1240056859790319617?s=20

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Lordfrontpaw · 18/03/2020 12:00

The Metro is pretty wokey blokey. I got very fed up with its anti-women stance a while ago. The independence also.

LadyQuarantinaPluckington · 18/03/2020 12:03

I think at least one of the prominent 'journos' at the Metro is a TW.

RuffleCrow · 18/03/2020 12:05

Yeah but for Russell Brand to admit that, he'd have to start viewing women as equal human beings, rather than convenient accessories. Awkward.

ItsLateHumpty · 18/03/2020 12:05

@Lynda07

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I've now looked him up, he's Graham Linehan, Irish comedian and broadcaster.

Good for Jonathan Ross.

Indeed and Brew

Qcng · 18/03/2020 12:09

Christ that Metro article.

There are TEN examples of the following phrases "anti-trans" "against transpeople" "transphobic/phobia"

The only mention of Women is in the image of Glinner's original tweet.

A fucking disgrace of an article.

zanahoria · 18/03/2020 12:14

cherry picking bullshit from twitter really isn't journalism, about as valid as reporting what is written on a toilet wall.

Lordfrontpaw · 18/03/2020 12:16

I assume there is someone there with an agenda. These is definitely someone there with friends (I keep seeing their faces on pieces on parties, opening events, lists of ‘top influencers’ etc). Same faces (well not always the same actual face)...

zanahoria · 18/03/2020 12:18

Neither of those are actual newspapers that people pay money for. The Metro is literally litter and I have no idea how the Independent keeps going but relies on clickbait.

Lordfrontpaw · 18/03/2020 12:26

Well with loo roll being in short supply...

NellieEllie · 18/03/2020 13:52

Anyone on Twitter who might want to comment on the Independent’s ridiculously biased story.
twitter.com/Independent/status/1240247949327826951

SisyphusLangClegRocks · 18/03/2020 14:01

Most of the comments on the Independent website are supporting what he said. They've really misjudged this one.

WrathofFaeKlopp · 18/03/2020 14:05

Having a wife and/or daughters doesn't seem to have helped a whole heap of other men to get it

Yes I know it's small crumbs, but the man is criticising other men.

That, I do appreciate.

RoyalCorgi · 18/03/2020 14:24

Years ago the Independent was a very good newspaper. These days it's just a rag. That article was just someone stringing a bunch of tweets together with no commentary, no ringing to interview people or check facts. Abysmal.

CranberriesChoccy · 18/03/2020 14:29

I see a lot of "liberal" men and women fully on board with the TWAW mantra, and they are either oblivious to all the concerns about male-bodied people in women's and girl's spaces or they see any mention of actual incidents to be isolated, one-offs. They reject the concept of AGP's and fetish-driven "transitioning", convinced somehow that when a man says he's a woman, he suddenly becomes nice and gentle and any previous grievances against women just disappear.

Ingridla · 18/03/2020 14:37

@NymphadoraBonks what's Stewart Lee said about it?

Datun · 18/03/2020 14:38

That Independent article is difficult to believe. It's one thing wanting to push your own agenda, it's quite another to look like a raving bunch of zealots going out of your way to deceive - especially when every single person knows it, because they can, uh, read.

I've said it before, but self sabotage is one of the main characteristics of this ideology.

SisyphusLangClegRocks · 18/03/2020 14:53

I've said it before, but self sabotage is one of the main characteristics of this ideology.

And precisely why they'll lose.

Oncewasblueandyellowtwo · 18/03/2020 14:58

Yes the articles didn't take long did they.
But that's good more people will find out what's happening.
The woman who was retweeted by Jones and suffered a pile on from his followers asked where's the transphobia on the thread and silence.

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LadyQuarantinaPluckington · 18/03/2020 15:03

I find myself thinking, in times of great stress, that even though I've been tested for COVID-19, have been in isolation, am being examined for other possibly serious health issues, am trying to get a Doctors note for work to no avail, amongst all sorts of other difficulties, that it could be worse.

At least I am not Owen Jones.

Oncewasblueandyellowtwo · 18/03/2020 15:18

Someone tweeted Ross saying, basically saying he's disappointed and he has a trans sister and it's not about womens rights it about bigotry against trans rights ect.
Ross responded:

I must disagree that this isn’t about women’s rights. I support Trans rights also. It’s a complicated issue that deserves debating. But I wish you and your sister only the best.

twitter.com/wossy/status/1240286120879013888

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Qcng · 18/03/2020 15:26

Super, no grovelling apology so far!

I wonder if Jane Goldman is a mumsnetter ??

Melroses · 18/03/2020 15:39

At least I am not Owen Jones.

Thank goodness, there is only one of them. (counting blessings)

Oncewasblueandyellowtwo · 18/03/2020 16:04

Jonathan Ross now trending on twitter.

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zanahoria · 18/03/2020 16:06

"To trans people, one of the most besieged, marginalised and oppressed minorities in Britain: you have few vocal allies in the media. But we are not going to stop using our voices to stand by and fight for you, whatever happens."

mobile.twitter.com/OwenJones84/status/1240285494552014848

few vocal allies, already had two absurdly biased articles

LOJ really is perma victim little twit

zanahoria · 18/03/2020 16:13

and he even has the cheek to link to the biased article while claiming victim status, a truly pathetic liar and nasty piece of work.

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