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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Evan Davis misgenders a non-binary activist

116 replies

Polynerd · 10/03/2020 17:54

Did anyone hear the segment on non-binary passports on R4 PM just now? Evan Davis introduced the segment: "Christie Elan-Cane brought the case blah blah... I spoke to her earlier - " and then he realised what he'd said and literally stopped and spluttered for ages. Must try to clip it and share - it was so hilarious that DD came into the kitchen to find out what I was laughing at!

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InTheShadowOfTheMushroomCloud · 10/03/2020 17:55

Brilliant!!!

Polynerd · 10/03/2020 17:55

And then after they had played the convo he abjectly apologised, said how difficult it was to get right and explained that Christie E-C prefers to be referred to as "purr", at which point I laughed so hard DD came in AGAIN! (I think it may be spelt 'per' but 'purr' is cuter.

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HollowTalk · 10/03/2020 17:57

I was laughing, too. I can't count the number of times I said "Oh for fuck's sake" during that piece.

HollowTalk · 10/03/2020 17:57

It reminded me of dealing with a tired toddler, where you end up agreeing an apple is a banana, because otherwise they're going to throw themselves on the floor and scream.

Polynerd · 10/03/2020 17:57

ED is Woke Central. Couldn't have happened to a 'be nicer' man.

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zafferana · 10/03/2020 17:58

Per? FFS, I'd have taken great pleasure is 'mis-gendering' a pretentious twat like that.

BacklashStarts · 10/03/2020 18:00

OMG! That is LITERAL violence. Oh no, he’ll get away with it because men are allowed to struggle with this. It’s only women, preferably those in court, who get no slack.

Zeugma · 10/03/2020 18:02

I happened to hear the beginning and as soon as the words 'assigned at birth' were uttered in the intro, I turned off Hmm

YouJustDoYou · 10/03/2020 18:02

"Purr"??...PURR?!!!! I can't...speak.. laughing too hard...

BINtersectionalFeminism · 10/03/2020 18:04

Yes it’s good that it was ED and not say John Humphreys (I know he’s retired now) so people can’t say he’s a dinosaur etc.

Redshoeblueshoe · 10/03/2020 18:06

Purr
Really ? Actually I could do with a good laugh. I'll see if I can find it

Lordfrontpaw · 10/03/2020 18:08

Oh Evan. Oh Evan Evan Evan. Sackcloth and ashes for thee.

RufustheLanglovingreindeer · 10/03/2020 18:13

I know its been said already...

But purr

Seriously

Are they taking the piss

Lordfrontpaw · 10/03/2020 18:14

I’m more of a mrrrrgeowwwwww myself. With a car claw hand gesture.

terryleather · 10/03/2020 18:17

Are they taking the piss

Yup,it's a power play like so much of the genderists' nonsense.

popehilarious · 10/03/2020 18:19

I don't know how you can laugh at this disgusting transphobia from Evan.
He must, somewhere in his brain, erroneously think this non-binary person is in some way FEMALE.

Do better Evan - it's not acceptable.

Lordfrontpaw · 10/03/2020 18:21

I give up. I really do.

Mockerswithnoknockers · 10/03/2020 18:24

Oh Purrr -lease!

Catting · 10/03/2020 18:29

I'd just call them Percey, and pretend I didn't know what all the fuss was 😈

TheresMoreofUs · 10/03/2020 18:36

I was in my kitchen listening - it was horrifying but so funny - he really, really tied himself up in knots - I thought he was going to combust. And then when he tried to apologise and nearly fucked up again because even he couldn’t quite manage the linguistic mangling of ‘purr’. I must be a bad influence because I so very rarely listen to Radio 4 but the last time I did was when he started interviewing a lawyer about Trump and the guy had to tell him that he wasn’t interviewing who he thought he was interviewing. Got to find it again on I-Player. And the Per Person has been fighting this battle to be classed as X for 30 years? 30 years!!!

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 10/03/2020 18:44

It was absolutely glorious.

On the issue the non-binary individual has been fighting, I just have no words. What an utter waste of time. Where's the money come from for 30 years of legal fees? (Turned out I did have a few words ...)

Lordfrontpaw · 10/03/2020 18:47

That’s a lot of legal fees.

EmmaGrundyForPM · 10/03/2020 18:48

I didnt hear the start of the piece but I switched on half way through and heard Evan's apology. When he said "per" i was so pissed off. It's madness.

OhHolyJesus · 10/03/2020 18:59

Purrr?

Oh FFS. I'll listen for laughs later OP.

(The Piers and Nandy segment wasn't so amusing but I recommend it also if you have time to watch. So many new news stories these days, it's hard to keep up, but there's no denying it, this is definitely getting the media exposure we all once hoped for.)

MedusasButterDish · 10/03/2020 19:01

On www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m000g3jr at 27:30.

NB:
"If you're a gendered trans person - that is, a trans man and a trans woman can get a passport in their acquired gender with no problem, even with GRC. [...] They will still be able to."

See: assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/251703/Applying_for_a_passport_additional_information.PDF

You can apply for a passport in an acquired gender. This option is available to those who do not hold a Gender Recognition Certificate or have not had gender reassignment surgery, as well as those who have.

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