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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Evan Davis misgenders a non-binary activist

116 replies

Polynerd · 10/03/2020 17:54

Did anyone hear the segment on non-binary passports on R4 PM just now? Evan Davis introduced the segment: "Christie Elan-Cane brought the case blah blah... I spoke to her earlier - " and then he realised what he'd said and literally stopped and spluttered for ages. Must try to clip it and share - it was so hilarious that DD came into the kitchen to find out what I was laughing at!

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HelgaHere1 · 10/03/2020 19:02

We were FFSing at the radio - I commented to DH 'I wonder how many other households are yelling at the radio" at that nonsense.

ListeningQuietly · 10/03/2020 19:13

If that interview does not wake Evan up from his woke slumber I do not know what will

TheresMoreofUs · 10/03/2020 19:29

Oh I just listened again - thanks for the link. How fecking ridiculous!!

Justhadathought · 10/03/2020 19:34

Are they taking the piss

Yes, & on purrpiss.

AbsintheFriends · 10/03/2020 19:35

Priceless!

I noticed that the non-binary person claimed it was discriminatory not to be allowed an X option, but given that every single person on the planet can be categorised* as M or F I wasn't sure who was being discriminated against?

(*some rare intersex conditions may make categorisation less straightforward)

Goosefoot · 10/03/2020 19:37

It goes to show that this business of it being easy to change out something like pronouns is false, it's completely different than changing a personal name.

RufustheLanglovingreindeer · 10/03/2020 19:40

Yes, & on purrpiss

Nice 😀

ListeningQuietly · 10/03/2020 19:44

Fab comment on an old Fail story about this
The issue is not "X", but XX and XY

Twickerhun · 10/03/2020 19:44

I think ED needs a fairly massive drink tonight to get over that piece of broadcast craziness

JellyFishSquish · 10/03/2020 19:45

Couldn't have happened to a better woke-bloke. Still mad at Evan Davis for how he treated Harry the Owl.

LiterallyProblematic · 10/03/2020 19:53

It was brilliant! I can’t believe he didn’t crack up when he said ‘per’. 😂

namechange9357 · 10/03/2020 19:59

Per is the unisex pronoun in one of my all time favourite novels (Woman on the Edge of Time) and I have a huge soft spot for it. But I would never ever ever ever ask anyone to address me by it

Toadsrevisited · 10/03/2020 19:59

Unperlievable.

How perturbing.

A perennial personnel peroblem, perhaps?

WomanIsTaken · 10/03/2020 20:00

That did put a smile on my face. A sort of real time woke crash. Thanks, Evan!

WrathofFaeKlopp · 10/03/2020 20:02

Tripped up there Evan.
Still, never mind, easy mistake, could happen to anyone.
At least 'per' sounds like the pronoun 'her'.

Per = her
What's the pronoun for 'his'?

Hirsutefirs · 10/03/2020 20:04

How do interviewers resist blurting out “What a load of shit!,” or words to that effect?

The passport office is discriminating against loonies who call it “purr passport.”

Redshoeblueshoe · 10/03/2020 20:05

Pis ?

Hirsutefirs · 10/03/2020 20:06

If you’re a bloke non binary, it’s “piss passport.”

It’s really not difficult, bigots!

Or it might be “pass pissport.”

PreseaCombatir · 10/03/2020 20:07

When I go to 27:30 on that link, I’m just hearing about a dogs toenails?

WrathofFaeKlopp · 10/03/2020 20:08

Redshoeblueshoe
Yes, but pronounced 'Piz' of course.

WrathofFaeKlopp · 10/03/2020 20:10

PreseaCombatir
That's the 9th, today's show (10th) is on the right of the page.

Binterested · 10/03/2020 20:19

I got dogs’ toenails too Grin. Just going back to listen to the right clip now.

On the upside - no one I know is buying this now. Had a lunch with an old colleague today and we didn’t even really have unpack the issues. I said a few words and she said a few words and we were of one accord. Everyone who is a grownup knows this is nonsense.

Seventyone72seventy3 · 10/03/2020 20:20

Oh good grief. Per says that per has no choice but to continue campaigning. How about NOT campaigning and doing something useful instead? You can't control how other people perceive you anyway. Evan's reaction just completely underlined how impossible it is to refer to people with these pronouns.

TopShelf · 10/03/2020 20:26

PreseaCombatir

Same, I thought it was just me and stuck with it a bit
and they were laughing because a dog shat in the show ring. Grin

PreseaCombatir · 10/03/2020 20:28

Thanks all, will try again Grin