Drag Queen Story Hour in Scottish Primary School

[rogdmum]

Well, not branded as story hour, but the drag queen is reading a story to primary school children... Brought in by an MP (Mhairi Black)

“Thank you to Flow and @MhairiBlack for sharing their experiences with us today. It was really important to hear about Section 28 and the negative effect it had. Thankfully now we teach #LGBTEducation proudly at @Glencoats_PS #LGBTQProud @LGBTYS @LGBTHistoryScot”

twitter.com/m_watsonht/status/1230607443455025157?s=21

[Edited by MNHQ to remove image at OP's request]

They are - what we used to call - a wee nyaff.

absolutepowercorrupts especially when my post was far from clear
It's a bit like an AIBU thread in the public sometimes - news report "drag queen in school" and the public go "oi that's terrible!". News report saying "council apologised for dq in school" and the public go "it's just like widow twankie you dinosaur". Contrariness in action

What a shitshow. Wow.

I saw a photo of a drag queen story time act where the kids were definitely given more of a lesson that anyone expected.

Miniskirt? You’ve really got to wear knickers luv. And at kids eye level too 🤢

@definitelygc and so many other PPs, yes I completely agree with everything you've said. I'm saddened and frightened by the place Scotland is becoming, all in the name of being progressive and inclusive, without the understanding that it is exactly the opposite.

Subsetbeach

Jokes about hitting a little girl in the face as well as joking about hitting a female Tory voter... might be a pattern here...

@SunsetBeetch

Sorry - cold thumbs!

Interesting how it's always female people our mate Flow wants to punch.

Neurotrash

I think Willam Belli is the more clued up drag queen - which I think is a fairly low bar in this line of work.

He was accused of being transphobic (by Courtney) a few years back for trying to basically assert gay men's autonomy and rights to same sex attraction, probably not in the most tasteful way but he isn't really known for being polite.

Of course it broke out into a big row and Willam was forced to publicly grovel and submit to reeducation.

I reckon he knows what's up though.

www.intomore.com/culture/william-attempts-to-apologize-for-transphobic-comments-in-new-video

And that's why I don't share the affection for Courtney Act. The tone may be more polite but the "this is the only acceptable opinion and you will be made to adopt it" underlying perspective is the same.

Mhairi Black has always had dubious judgement. Remember her saying she wanted to nut no voters? The "Kit Kat" she shoved up her nose in parliament? She's been promoted well beyond her level, anyone with a yellow rosette would have won the elections she did because of the way politics is in Scotland at the moment.

I'm sick of the "it's just like widow twankie" and pantomime dame comments.

No - this is the most transparent attempt at minimising the grooming of kids - they'd have invited a pantomime dame if they wanted a pantomime dame i.e. a male actor dressed up as a parody of a woman. I wouldn't be that keen on that as it reinforces sexist stereotypes but it wouldn't be the same as a sexualised drag queen.

Do we think at a gay bar if they rolled out a pantomime dame when they'd promised a drag queen, everyone would just say 'oh, it's just the same'. No they wouldn't.

Basically anyone who says 'it's just like a pantomime dame' should be asked - well why didn't they get the local pantomime dame in then? And be viewed extremely suspiciously in terms of how they want to erode kids boundaries.

Re Pantomime Dames

I have a young relative who has been involved in panto's from a very young age via his stage school (dancing).

They take safeguarding very seriously. Everyone is DBS checked and all under 16's have to be chaperoned backstage with a strict ratio of chaperones to kids. If for some reason that ratio can't be met then the kids can't be there and rehearsals/shows cannot go ahead.

Not quite the same scenario but I just wanted to point out that some places do take safeguarding very seriously.

I'm listening to this on radio scotland just now - can't say the case against is coming across too strongly with the callers

have they ever offered to punch a male?

the weans are running the nursery

Yes, everyone defended Jimmy Savile and took to the radio to support him too. Look at how the BBC covered up for him for years. Just because there's a mass delusion doesn't mean something is right or that safeguarding concerns should be minimised.

Part of the whole point of safeguarding is that any concern should be treated with respect and taken seriously - even if it's absolutely wrong. That is what good safeguarding looks like.

I hope the parents of the kids whose faces have been plastered all over an X rated social media feed take legal action.

Ah ok, I didn't know about that view. Thanks for the article.

Essentially though, it would have been far better if for example, a rugby personality who is gay had visited to talk about their experiences and their successes.

DQs being presented as role models in the LGB community actually feeds into the negative stereotypes around being a gay man, or a boy who likes 'stereotypically girl things' when young.

@Grafittiqueen - the SNP are pretty regressive when it comes to women and children. It comes down to their leadership and some social attitudes. It will be very interesting to see Salmond go to trial this year - but obviously if the case is true then there will have been a lot of others who will have known about his behaviour towards women.

The SNP aren’t a progressive or liberal party. They are close minded in attempting to dress themselves in politically correct policies (which they don’t think about in any real depth). Mhari Black is a leading example of how they are.

Oooh, I wasn't brave enough to phone but I did get a text read out

I’ve posted before about misogyny in Scottish society. I think there is also still a lot of homophobia, especially against male gays... my sense is that this leads to an enhanced degree of sympathy for effeminate men among women and non—homophobic men — but especially among women, many of whom like the idea of being seen as a strong woman who can take care of herself, and by extension, others such as these gay men. This desire to be seen as strong I think is exploited by this current movement to create a victim/protector dynamic. Such women put their needs last.

I have observed on a few occasions how effeminate males come to dominate (in a passive aggressive way, of course..certainly, they become the centre of attention) in female groups they gain access to.. eg a boy at our school was very effeminate, possibly gay, who knows but in those days it wasn’t trendy to be gay and would hang around with us, and was somehow deferred to... more recently watching a stage show in my child‘s drama group — there was a boy in the early teen group that reminded me of my classmate, and he had been given very much the leading role, lots of speaking (it was slightly improvised) and the deferential body language was very telling.

I think #bekind is just so frustrating... so simplistic and will just preach to the converted. Those who are already kind will naturally feel even more obliged to erode their boundaries, and the really cruel ones won’t care at all.

Sorry for multiple postings — I know this is probably very obvious to all you experienced feminists , but I just had to try and articulate my thoughts! What to do about it all...? It seems such a trap...

Jeremy Vine is going to talk about this on his R2 show.

I’d love to ask him if he would be allowed to have a pre watershed Radio show, if his twitter feed had pictures of him “interacting” with a dildo.

From report published today SNP take note

Safeguarding policies

The Inquiry received disclosure of current safeguarding policies from political parties, from a large number of government departments and agencies, and from the Palace of Westminster. We appointed an expert, Professor June Thoburn, to examine the adequacy of these. From her work, it is clear that, overall, Westminster institutions have improved their approach to safeguarding in recent years.

However, at the time of the hearing in this investigation, the evidence was that certain political parties had no specific safeguarding and child protection policies at all. It is unacceptable that any political party in England and Wales operates without suitable safeguarding and child protection policies and procedures.

We also heard evidence, notably from the Green Party and the Labour Party, which indicated that there are major gaps in the practical knowledge of even senior people about basic safeguarding. Some of these people considered themselves sufficiently qualified to judge whether abuse is serious enough to be reported to the authorities, even in the Labour Party’s case, where it is publicly committed to the policy of mandatory reporting.

The Inquiry recommends that all political parties registered with the Electoral Commission in England and Wales should ensure that they have a comprehensive safeguarding policy and procedures that accompany them. Further, that the Electoral Commission should monitor and oversee compliance with this recommendation. These recommendations are made in order to ensure that government departments and political parties have clear, up-to-date, and transparent policies and procedures for the handling of allegations of child sexual abuse.

I hope he has some sensible callers phone in - he's just said "I don't see anything wrong with it"...