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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Drag Queen Story Hour in Scottish Primary School

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rogdmum · 23/02/2020 09:22

Well, not branded as story hour, but the drag queen is reading a story to primary school children... Brought in by an MP (Mhairi Black)

“Thank you to Flow and @MhairiBlack for sharing their experiences with us today. It was really important to hear about Section 28 and the negative effect it had. Thankfully now we teach #LGBTEducation proudly at @Glencoats_PS #LGBTQProud @LGBTYS @LGBTHistoryScot

twitter.com/m_watsonht/status/1230607443455025157?s=21

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ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 24/02/2020 22:41

and then is revealed to be someone who would have been happy to kick a lesbian out of a bar for wearing the t-shirt of an LGB organisation.

And as a man who uses women's toilets.

TorkTorkBam · 24/02/2020 22:42

There seem to be more comments coming through on the article in The Times now.

www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2020/02/24/snp-mp-defends-primary-school-visit-sexually-explicit-drag-act/

Tombakersscarf · 24/02/2020 22:43

There's an STV news article on Facebook on this, loads of comments and most supportive of the act - I'm sure it was age-appropriate, they see worse in panto, kids need to learn tolerance and acceptance etc. I was surprised to see the comments.

TheProdigalKittensReturn · 24/02/2020 22:43

RE Flowjob's history of being hostile to women, is anyone surprised? When you look at the shouty people pushing to erode appropriate boundaries it's a. a rather small group of names that come up over and over again and b. always accompanied by weapons grade misogyny.

Who's seen culturally speaking as the biggest barrier between kids and people who'd like to do inappropriate things to them? Who's seen as the group most likely to intervene when men want to take advantage of young women and girls? Older women.

TorkTorkBam · 24/02/2020 22:45

Oops wrong link. This is in The Times

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/4bb27750-5724-11ea-ae40-36d0719ad0bc?shareToken=c433a9b866b01f26978800a437a43e8c

Binterested · 24/02/2020 22:45

NSPCC cried homophobia as well when people protested about rubberman.

How are such utterly thick people becoming MPs and running national charities?

TheProdigalKittensReturn · 24/02/2020 22:46

I'm not convinced it's stupidity so much as it's a deliberate attempt to manipulate public responses and silence critics.

NeurotrashWarrior · 24/02/2020 22:47

Omg so this Flowjob has just been wandering into the women's loos?

He's a gay man not trans.

(Clearly says so on Instagram)

Binterested · 24/02/2020 22:50

You have to assume though that the NSPCC do actually want to protect children. Surely some of them care? They are not all pushing a ludicrous ideology for nefarious purposes ? It’s those people that must actually be thick. They want to do the right thing but have no critical thinking skills. Otherwise I can’t explain it.

fascinated · 24/02/2020 22:50

Is ‚Flow‘ supposed to be a reference to periods? Grim, if so.

TheProdigalKittensReturn · 24/02/2020 22:53

People who give themselves names like FlowJob think women are a smutty joke, so it shouldn't be a surprise that they get very angry when reminded that we're people with opinions of our own.

Absolutepowercorrupts · 24/02/2020 23:01

Tombakerscarf
You're sure it was age appropriate? How and why have you arrived at this conclusion?
This is a Primary school. Children definitely need to learn about tolerance and inclusion, that same sex relationships are normal and not in any way odd or strange.
They don't NEED to be groomed, this is grooming of the highest order. It's fucking disgraceful that an MP is supporting this grooming.

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 24/02/2020 23:05

He's a gay man not trans.

According to their twitter feed they are trans.

2Rebecca · 24/02/2020 23:11

A trans drag queen shows what a nonsense TWAW is. After all if TWAW and a TW can be a drag queen then women can be drag queens so I could be a drag queen, apart from the fact that I can't because I'd just be a woman in a sequinned frock singing and the whole point of drag queens is that they are males acting a parody of extreme femininity. Females acting extreme femininity would just look like we're all going to a dinner dance or something.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 24/02/2020 23:12

You're sure it was age appropriate? How and why have you arrived at this conclusion?

I think Tom was just describing the comments.

TheProdigalKittensReturn · 24/02/2020 23:13

Flowjob says they live their life "as a female". Now, I had an enjoyably misspent youth, but in my experience living as a female does not involve taking pictures of oneself simulating the act of sticking one's fingers up a mate's arse as said mate reclines on a fast food outlet's counter. Or any of the other stuff on Flowjob's social media accounts. So, what does this person think "living as a female" means, and what does that tell us about a. what message they might give to children about what "living as a female" means and b. whether it is wise to have someone who thinks that "living as a female" means whatever Flowjob thinks it does presented to kids as a role model who they should learn from.

Aesopfable · 24/02/2020 23:13

The NSPCC ad where a child is fallen through the air then gets rescued by a benign looking middle aged woman - I wonder why they didn’t use a man in a rubber fetish suit instead? 🤔

testing987654321 · 24/02/2020 23:13

but she added that the visit would not have gone ahead if the sexual nature of Mullen’s stage persona had been known in advance.

It is unclear how the primary school children had become aware of a drag queen called “Flow Job” and came to invite the performer.

Brilliantly understated.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 24/02/2020 23:13

A trans drag queen shows what a nonsense TWAW is.

Especially as according to the Times article this person appears to call themselves Nathan still.

Aesopfable · 24/02/2020 23:16

the sexual nature of Mullen’s stage persona

Isn’t that a fundamental part of drag?

fascinated · 24/02/2020 23:18

@Aesop — I think a lot of older, less woke, more ‚innocent’ Scots might genuinely think drag is somehow akin to pantomime dame.

Lordfrontpaw · 24/02/2020 23:23

Even my mum knew the difference between widow twanky and tiddo wanky.

TheProdigalKittensReturn · 24/02/2020 23:23

And the thing is, this makes the gay community look terrible to those people.

There was a survey in the US a year or two ago that showed support for LGBT people dropping among the young for the first time in decades, and stuff like this is part of the reason why. Most people are fine with gay people, but expect the gay community to abide by the same reasonable social boundaries as everyone else, so if you wouldn't have a Dominatrix Story Time then you shouldn't have a Drag Queen Story Time either.

DidoLamenting · 24/02/2020 23:25

I had a look at Courtney Act's Twitter feed. Apart from one dodgy song about Christmas turkeys there is almost no sexualised content.

I suppose the difference is that Courtney Act is an intelligent and thoughtful performer who talks intelligently and thoughtfully whether in costume or not.

TheProdigalKittensReturn · 24/02/2020 23:28

Whereas Flowjob has a personality, or persona, that seems to consist entirely of rather dull sex jokes and talking down to people far more intelligent than Flowjobself.