'Virtue signalling coward' Labour's war escalates

[BovaryX]

The Labour war over the trans pledge has escalated, with Rebecca LB et al accused of virtue signalling cowardice. Also, the decision to allow self identified 'women' onto women's only Labour shortlists is going to be legally challenged. Labour have created this absurdity and now the laughable contradictions will be exposed to public scrutiny and ridicule.

Labour’s civil war over transgender rights descended into even deeper bitterness last night after one of Jeremy Corbyn’s senior aides called leadership hopeful Rebecca Long Bailey a ‘virtue-signalling coward’ for threatening to expel feminists from the party – and a crowdfunded legal challenge was mounted against the party

Oh yep.... he’s going there. Straight for ‘is Woman’s Place a hate group’

@thecatfromjapan

Did it come up in Ashcroft? I hadn't clocked that. Interesting. Will have a read.

Thanks

R L-B's an ex-lawyer, though.

Why didn't she have the political acumen and the filial responsibility to her training to read it?

The vast majority of labour members, like the vast majority of people are just not interested in this issue.

And yet, it's one of the reason the election was lost by them.

RLB flatly denies she has signed up to what she has signed up to: "I don't think it says that."

(Spoiler Alert: It says that.)

Beyond a joke.

Yes, Regina.

It's been discussed a fair bit on here.

I forget that everyone doesn't know! 😁

(On Marr now.)

And now she's being anti-semitic and denying it.

Can’t they just scrap these idiots and start again? If they want an anti woman party they can just go and start their own.

mockers

So, between a rock and a hard place, R L-B is going for the, 'I haven't read it/didn't understand it' line of defence.

That is: assuming most voters are too thick to notice

or

People will think she's thick, and let her off the hook.

Oh yes.

That's everything I want in a future Prime Minister.

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They don't realise that it's not history - it's a future waiting for them as they age and accrue life experiences (especially life experiences that bring them up against the cold, hard wall of structural discrimination).
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All of this is to say that the attempt to dismiss the women criticising the TRA position as frozen relics of the thinking of a by-gone age is woeful.

We draw on life experience, we use that to evolve our thinking in the present, for the present, and for the future, and there are many of us.

Excellent, thought-provoking description TheCatfromJapan.

She's not saying she didn't read it or didn't understand it. She is flatly denying reality (!) and saying she does not think it says that, when Marr reads it out verbatim in front of her.

Now a lawyer only "knows" something when there is a document in their possession, as Thatcher famously explained, but even that is pushing it.

Wow. Again left wishing Andrew Marr had more of a handle on the issues to actually get RLB to expose the true extent of her beliefs/lack of understanding/prejudice. One question he should have started with is "what is transphobia?" plus also linking together her statement about removing sex based rights from the Equalities Act (what the actual fuck) back to her comments on Karen Ingala Smith's statement.

RLB flatly denies she has signed up to what she has signed up to: "I don't think it says that."(Spoiler Alert: It says that.)Beyond a joke

What kind of politico signs a pledge calling for a Stalinist purge and then denies its contents? The Labour party are heading towards oblivion or implosion and the talentless mediocrities competing for the top job are one of the many reasons why

Oh well done, Lachlan Stuart! He's been GC on twitter for a long time. He seems like a lovely thoughtful man.

BovaryX One who is fearless of appearing an incompetent fool.

And, yes, @ 'mediocrities'.

My feeling is that Corbyn had a veritable puddle of talent to draw on.

And that suited him and his group just fine: loyal fools who owed everything to his group, with no real talent or experience to poss any threat.

And, sadly, that dynamic is still playing out.

The only sad and surprising thing is that Lisa Nandy was so desperate for Momentum second-preference votes, she fell into a wholly-aboidable elephant trap.

Very glad these fools are being held accountable for signing up to a witch hunt.
None of them are fit to lead.

There's plenty of warring in the Labour Party but this isn't in the top 50 of the things people are arguing about.

If that's true, why were they all so keen to sign it? If it's a fringe issue that they disagree with, why not just refuse to sign? The fact that they signed implies that either they actually agree with it or it was important enough that they had to sign in order to stay in the leadership race.

It's worth saying that this demonstrates that these oh-so-loyal-trans-allies were so committed to the cause of trans rights they weren't even aware of the Labour manifesto position on trans rights.

So ... cynical fools to boot.

If I didn't actually need the Labour Party to offer an alternative to the present government, I would be crying with laughter about this.

It's comedy gold.

Except I do, and it therefore isn't funny at all. It's appalling.

I found this on Lachlan's twitter feed yesterday (sorry if someone else has already posted a link). I think he is one of the "good ones".

twitter.com/Lachlan_Edi/status/1228696419760058375?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

Just seen RLB on Andrew Marr, what an absolute fool of a woman....or maybe shes a Tory plant?

It's a bubble issue for some very angry people on the internet and most people are oblivious to it.

On the contrary, the way it is being framed is an attempt to make it a bubble issue that most people are oblivious too.

As @SW16 says, what it actually is is a debate about the rights and roles of women in society. That is why it has achieved so much public attention in so short a time, that is why the emphasis is all on the brave and stunning men taking women's prizes despite most trans people being FtM (because being female in Britain is so shit), that is why LEADERS of POLITICAL PARTIES who should be interested in running and administering the country are talking about it at all.

And the consensus is that women should fuck off back to the domestic life and "be nice" while men take everything our grandmothers fought for, while indulging their every sexual whim.

And that is why there is so much money backing this issue, is what I meant to add.