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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Scottow verdict: Guilty

384 replies

DeployTheTut · 14/02/2020 10:46

I have no words. Reports from Joani Walsh and Maya Forstater at the Trial in St Albans

twitter.com/mforstater/status/1228261217212522497?s=21

twitter.com/joaniwalshi/status/1228259484801359872?s=21

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GodwinsRulebook · 17/02/2020 23:18

Women aren’t covered by hate crime legislation. It’s as simple as that. We are the only protected group (under the 2010 EA) not to be protected.

Go figure ...

The foul misogynistic hatred of women is so normal, it’s not considered criminal.

JennerOfKensington · 18/02/2020 09:41

Gets stranger and stranger. My worry is where is the digging leading to?

threadreaderapp.com/thread/1229304190389936128.html

Languishingfemale · 18/02/2020 09:44

Quick .... look over there...... Hmm

Lordamighty · 18/02/2020 09:50

my worry is where is the digging leading to?

Thanks for the reminder, off to add to the dig now.

Doyoumind · 18/02/2020 09:50

Welcome to MN Jenner.

Cuntysnark · 18/02/2020 09:58

Adrian Yalland has an utterly brilliant twitter thread about this. Someone is clutching at straws and it’s not Adrian Yalland.

BustedWench · 18/02/2020 09:59

Some misinformation again (quelle surprise)

Mr Yalland attended a Case Management meeting between myself and the complainant (me the defendant again) but has never worked on the civil claim bought against me by the complainant, which is still live. So it's not over for me quite yet, more punishment on the way

BustedWench · 18/02/2020 10:00

Also, Mr Yalland has never worked on the criminal case for either side as far as I'm aware

sawdustformypony · 18/02/2020 10:24

Really don't know if the Harry Miller case is anything to do with all this - it appear to be. So here's a link to the judgement re: his tweets....you can see the way the Judge was thinking from his opening quote from Animal Farm.

If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear

Looks an interesting read

(As an aside, had to laugh at that there Richard Madeley being criticized for listening to a woman MP - poor fucker must have been really confused - "but I'm meant to listen to women and not silence them - It's not for me to decide the merits of what they say....oh dear !")

JennerOfKensington · 19/02/2020 09:07

Ironically Ms Hayden was on the Parenting Show on BBC Three Counties Radio last night talking about the Scottow verdict and trolling.

twitter.com/flyinglawyer73/status/1229879894877888512

BustedWench · 19/02/2020 09:56

A complaint has been made, in writing, to the BBC3CR biased reporting on the trial and outcome, an appeal to the high court has also begun.

Unfortunately, I am limited to what I can and cannot discuss, hence why I've been relatively quiet since December 2018, but things are in motion and all will be revealed when safe to do so.

Lordfrontpaw · 19/02/2020 09:58

💐

Gibbonsgibbonsgibbons · 19/02/2020 10:00

KBO Kate Flowers we want to dig

Alltheprettyseahorses · 19/02/2020 10:30

Out of interest, if the verdict stands in Kate's case (and I don't think it should), would that set precedent for the same verdict if a case was made regarding the fascinating link above or for what Caroline Whatsherface has experienced?

DuLANGMondeFOREVER · 19/02/2020 11:36

The parenting show on three counties radio? 😂😂😂

Not quite the media commentator high life 😂😂😂

Lordfrontpaw · 19/02/2020 11:49

They are a parent then?

Melroses · 19/02/2020 14:01

would that set precedent No precedent - it is the lowest rung of the court system.

The other situation is more about the police and CPS.

JennerOfKensington · 19/02/2020 14:06

It will depend on which route the appeal goes. An appeal to the Crown Court is just a rehearing of the case before a judge and two magistrates. If it goes case stated to the High Court then that will result in a precedent.

Amalfimamma · 19/02/2020 15:21

Ho jenner and welcome to mumsnet.

Can you please put in another defamation report demanding I delete messages or hand over my details to you? Seeing as we all now know you can't practice law and your extensive criminal record, well part of it z is is now public knowledge?

Ta very much

JennerOfKensington · 19/02/2020 15:38

Amalfimamma If you are suggesting I am SH then you are wrong. The thread is about Kate who was convicted last week in court of a criminal offence. On the other hand I do not have a criminal record of any description and I don't think it's in the spirt to just make assumptions and attack me.

Amalfimamma · 19/02/2020 15:41

jenner

Course you're not.

I do love how you're spinning though. Apart from Kate and harrop you've not had much support have ya? As for harassment I'd have a wee look at your own Twitter time line and the numerous attacks you've been posting in recent days.

Oh how much fun is coming in the next few weeks.

PenguindreamsofDraco · 19/02/2020 16:16

Can we not advertise Hayden's twitter here? I'm sure people will look anyway if they have any interest in what Hayden has to say. It just feels wrong to be flagging it up, since Hayden is (in my opinion) no friend to women however Hayden identifies.

Amalfimamma · 19/02/2020 16:19

penguin

Its hayden advertising their own account 😂😂😂

MissChardonnay · 19/02/2020 18:30

I feel sorry for Maya Forstater and think the demands of the TRA brigade are a bit ridiculous at times. However, unless I'm not getting the full story, this case seems a completely different scenario.

Scottow seems to have created multiple accounts with the sole intention of abusing a TW online, and was specifically targeting her trans status - e.g. 'pig in a wig'.

Can't say I feel particularly sorry for her...

Lordfrontpaw · 19/02/2020 18:32

Yet death and rape threats stand. What a curious system we have in this country.

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