Angela Rayner says you can only be a Labour member if you believe TWAW

[jadefinch]

And has effectively also said that Women's Place and the LGB Alliance (essentially groups for women, gays and lesbians to meet and discuss women's, gay and lesbian issues) are hate groups and them meeting are hate crimes

They Labour Party has lot it’s marbles more like.

Good hashtag for this issue on twitter #expelme

It’s truly a mystery why labour got slaughtered at the last election. 🤔

Isn’t it? Almost as if they gave the middle finger to 51% of the electorate...

I'm in the Labour Party and I won't now be voting for Angela Raynor as deputy. No one I know in the Labour Party thinks self ID is a good thing. Unfortunately there are too many predatory men for this to work. A quick glance a sexual crime statistics will prove the sad reality of this.

I guess I'll be another #labourLosingWomen then.

#expelme is going nicely viral Some great declarations there. Anything from Angela about the glorious purge of the heretics yet? And how this absolutely definitely wasn't shooting the Labour party squarely in the foot.

How does all this sit with those two London CLPs who have resolved to actually listen to women’s concerns around this agenda which seeks to stop women discussing issues that affect them?

Angela Rayner and co must really hate other women.

Do these people have no brain cells?

Labour are dead in the water now.

This thread reads like a Mail comments page.

In what way? Is the mail full of feminists making key points?

Does this whole scandal make anyone else wonder what else our politicians are lying about, day after brazen day?

It makes me wonder, if Raynor is incapable or unwilling to engage her brain and give this some critical thought, what else is she (and others like her) incapable of doing? I also worry about lobbying, which gives some individuals and groups far more access to, and influence over politicians, than any other group.

And on that basis I don't want her anywhere near power.

That Labour trans group have also blocked Debbie Hayton on Twitter, so much for inclusion.

'Accept that there is no material conflict between trans rights and women’s rights'.

No. Just NO. There is a demonstrable conflict between women's rights and trans rights - because women's rights no longer have any meaning if they include "some males" as well. And the word "woman" no longer has any meaning if it means "any male who identifies as a woman" too.

Lord Ashcroft' report is so interesting, I have to say I can't find anything to disagree with in it.

Last month I polled over 10,000 people, paying particular attention to those who voted Labour in 2017 but not in 2019.

^ That's me. I wasn't polled - but I voted labour in 2017, and wild horses wouldn't have convinced me to vote for them in 2019. I did not want Corbyn to be PM.

Its notable that a real change took place in Labour at around the end of 2017 - ignited by Lily Madigan's shenanigans - followed by Corbyn, Butler, & co chanting TWAW, and announcing their pronouns at the Pink Awards - these are not people I want in government.

I do not like the new woke culture in Labour - they ARE the Woke Stasi. I do not like them expelling women from the Party for standing up for women's rights - and until they wake up to fact that this woke shite doesn't speak to anyone but a few blue haired twitterers, and some blokes with beards, they won't win an election.

Interestingly, I recall threads on MN prior to the last election vilifying the Conservatives and saying that anyone who didn't vote Labour was a selfish, greedy idiot.

The Labour party was a shower of shite before the last election, and they are a shower of shite now.......

For fuck's sake. Light must bend around Rayner and Long-Bailey.

yes to all of the above, but what I really don't understand is that they are happy to ignore all those who completed the GRA Consultation. That's a lot of people, and they're happy to effectively tell them that they wasted their time.

FFS.

I have a very senior and successful former colleague who came out as a trans woman last year. During their first four decades, they benefited extensively from male privilege at a prestigious boys Independent schools and in male-only clubs at his Oxbridge uni, and in their career where women were frequently passed over for promotion while they climbed the ranks.

Last year they also found out they had a son they never knew about. Their Facebook page is now filled with articles about the plight of single mothers like them.

Are people honestly trying to tell me that this person has suffered misogyny? Seriously?

If indeed they’ve been experiencing crippling gender dysphoria for decades then that is terribly sad and must be a huge burden. I’m sure that believing your body’s sex and your brain are incompatible must be truly awful.

But it’s not misogyny. It’s not the same issues women face. What is the motive in trying to stop women being able to define the discrimination they face? Why are the terms women have being appropriated?

Of course trans people face discrimination and suffer terrible things. Of course that should be addressed and is unacceptable. We don’t need to use existing and incorrect terms to define what they experience.

The Labour Party needs to understand that you can ignore reality, but it won't ignore you.

^^

In a nutshell.

Interestingly, I recall threads on MN prior to the last election vilifying the Conservatives

Rightly so, they are a despicable party.

Fortunately this is not Labour policy yet and the women pushing this are not yet in charge of the party (and doubt they ever will be if they keep this up)

I bet Starmer (it's a human rights issue) would back it. Why wouldn't he?

#ExpelMe is trending on Twitter.

'Trans liberation' 1) liberation from whom? and 2) liberation to do what, exactly?

I think i know the answer to the second one but i won't post it here.

They really really must believe that this is a vote winner (because me those pushing the agenda are telling them so).

I’m going to start a campaign - a very successful and popular one - for, hmmmm, legalising Cock fighting, or kitten bating, or for the compulsory wearing of crash helmets during sex. I bet with the right bot backing I could get them to sign up fo any or all of these.

Unfortunately I’m not surprised but it really does hammer home just how shit this group of politicians are. I’m angry about what they have done to the Labour Party - I keep thinking back to Alan Johnson telling Jon Landesmann that he was a disgrace and why after they lost the election in December. I agree with him entirely.

I am however reading those pledges in the style of Reg from the People’s Front of Judaea and finding it makes sense.

Also love how #Expel e is trending.

I have a vote in the leadership election - it’s going to be who is least worse.