Angela Rayner says you can only be a Labour member if you believe TWAW

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And has effectively also said that Women's Place and the LGB Alliance (essentially groups for women, gays and lesbians to meet and discuss women's, gay and lesbian issues) are hate groups and them meeting are hate crimes

And labour wonder why they are an absolute failure 🤔 Get with reality Angela. The majority of the population know you can't change sex. If labour doesn't understand this basic fact then it's no wonder they are entirely unelectable.

She is actually mad.

Those pledges are explicitly, actively anti woman and anti LGB. Either you centre trans people and surrender your own interests or you fuck off out of Labour apparently. This party is so dead its stinking.

I particularly enjoyed the tweet from the twit asking seriously if women discussing their rights had at least one TW at the table, otherwise the discussions weren't valid. Firstly you paternalist dickhead, women are allowed to discuss their own rights without male supervision. And secondly, how many times so far have you chided trans groups and meetings for not having at least one GC woman at the table, and declared that no trans meeting is valid without that GC presence? None. Because you'll argue that it's FINE for trans meetings to be all trans people and all trans focused, but not for female people to have equality in this. Without ever being even slightly aware of your own whopping unequal standards based on sheer sexism.

Woke my arse.

I am staying in the party until l have voted for the Leadership. I will not be voting for RLB or Rayner as a direct result of their views on this subject.
Once l have voted my direct debit will be cancelled. I’m done with them.

If Prince Philip announced today that he identifies as Princess Philippa, would anyone really believe that he's been subject to misogyny and patriarchal oppression for all of his 98 years? Would anyone really believe that he and the Queen have been in a lesbian marriage for 72 years?

Before I knew this board and became more aware of these things, I had a female work acquaintance whose male husband “transitioned” (wore skirts and grew their hair long) into a woman. The acquaintance insisted she saw them as a woman and respected them as a woman but when I asked her if that meant she was now a lesbian in a lesbian relationship, she hit the roof and said of course she wasn’t a lesbian!! I wasn’t trying to make a point, it was just a genuine and curious question because of something I didn’t understand at the time. She sees her husband as a true woman and she is a woman too and in a relationship with them but doesn’t consider herself a lesbian Which made me wonder.. did she actually believe her husband was now a woman? And if so, then why didn’t she consider herself a woman in a lesbian relationship, with another woman?

If their careers go down the pan, politicians should consider entering the next Olympics... mental gymnastics can’t be much harder than actual gymnastics, surely? They can identify themselves into a Gold medal winner.

Where the Labour party is concerned the adult have left the room.

Insane. This kind of egregious tosh is why they lost. Yet on it goes. I actually find it quite chilling how far the trans ideology tentacles extend. We know MRAs hate actual women but see how even an LGB organisation is now getting thrown under the bus. Never has a fetish got such traction before.

Perhaps they should read Lord Ashcroft's report on their defeat. Here's a quote
Enjoy your extinction Labour, I no longer care.

And this on women in science day too !!! What a joke.

Us pink girly Barbie-gendered brains prefer shopping and fluffy kittens surely?

Yep, off to put my unicorn onesie on and eat my woke cookie.

Just a thought but what does this mean mean for Christians or over religious people who are members of Labour I know a cupley and there not the tipe to be tow impressed with this

They simply don't want to serve and represent the class of person the party was created to represent. They are dead. Let them arselick for the trans vote. It's vanishingly tiny.

Good. Angela Rayner is quite right about this as well. Bigotry has no place in the Labour party.

Hahaha, they actually hid replies! LOTS of replies.

Bigotry against females and LGB people a jolly good thing though eh? It's a point of view I suppose....

Liberation from what/who?

Reality, presumably.

Re. Rosena Allin Khan- she is another TWAW mantra chanter, and responded to a constituent’s concerns about self-ID by telling her that WPUK is a hate group.

Screenshot of @Labour_Trans tweet and the symbol showing that tweets had been hidden, and the top of the list of tweets. Censoring bastards.

Labour Party, you've got to confront this or it will devour your electability. I understand that you're humiliated at having lost the election, but a 40-year Lenten fast (abstaining from electability) is not going to help. Grow the hell up and prove yourself in Opposition... starting with this tendency in your own party.

Thankfully she’s not education secretary!

Does this whole scandal make anyone else wonder what else our politicians are lying about, day after brazen day? It's like when compulsive liars tell an obvious porky because they want to be found out!

Perhaps they should read Lord Ashcroft's report on their defeat.

I’ve just been looking at the summary graphics on Twitter and it’s utterly depressing. Labour members still don’t seem to grasp the reasons why they lost in December and still want to blame everyone including the voters for not ‘getting’ the message.

This graphic pretty much sums up how out-of-touch Labour members are with the British voting public.

For once I’m kind of glad that my father is long dead. This really would have finished him off. However it’s a shame that mum’s not here because she would have had a field day with all this!

Love some of the screenshotted tweets. A WPUK speaker talks about what she actually said and asks if it us transphobic, and a beard comes along and simply demands to know if she asked any men what they think or invited them to speak.

I mean, he doesn't use the word men, because even he understands how that would look. But he uses the current cover word fashionable among progressive woman haters.

The Labour Party needs to understand that you can ignore reality, but it won't ignore you.

x-posted from the other thread on this topic:

It's interesting, isn't it, what DOESN'T get this treatment?

Has anyone ever been compelled to say that there are absolutely no material conflicts between immigrant rights and worker rights?

I mean, it's a good leftist position that we shouldn't be xenophobic, and that overall immigration contributes to culture and makes us stronger and better. But no one's told they have to say there's NO conflict there.

No one's told they MUST ACCEPT that there's no material conflict between any other two groups of competing interest. It's only us AFABs who have to accept that their rights come last the moment they come into conflict with another group's rights.

Could you imagine someone saying you had to accept there was no conflict, ever, between gay rights and Muslim rights? No? What if they said that even admitting that these rights could ever come into conflict was homophobic and Islamophobic?

This is absurdity. No one should allow it to stand without pointing out how this is simply not required of any other group.

The Labour party have totally lost any sense of proportion on this issue.
They sound like a bunch of loony students playing at politics.
Ah well, no chance of them actually winning anything soon.