Graham Lineham on Newsnight tonight!

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Just saw this on Twitter. Should be interesting...

This " Glinner supports conversion therapy " bollocks is so like Trump. Turning a legitimate accusation against him on its head and trying to accuse other people in the same terms.

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Thank you!

This " Glinner supports conversion therapy " bollocks is so like Trump.

I think this changing of the meaning of "conversion therapy" is something that needs to be looked into more carefully, how it was accepted so easily that it was the same and therefore bad.

I keep thinking, if it can mean any sort of change, it could apply to almost any sort of therapy.

No fookin' problem x

Oh sorry, I meant that to be a reply to someone

for a comedy writer who is used to firing off the cuff & hitting the funny mark, this must be a source of extreme frustration.

Writing brilliantly and speaking brilliantly are very often mutually exclusive. Writers are often introverts; speakers are often extroverts. Posie Parker speaks brilliantly and is a great interviewee, but she can't write to save her soul (sorry Posie!). When she was on FB, her posts were often convoluted and hard to decipher as well as grammatically wrong.

I'm a writer but I can't speak and in fact I hate speaking. Many of the writers I know are nervous wrecks when it comes to public speaking.

Could it have been set up to counteract the fantastic, clear, concise articles that he wrote in the Sunday Times and, was it The Mail, yesterday?

Yes; he writes clearly and concisely, but apparently he's not good at being the subject of a hostile interview.

I did not watch it, btw; I don't have TV and I generally don't like watching or listening to interviews. I prefer to read them.
(Still on page 3 of this thread)

^ Page 5 actually.

I have a lot of admiration for what Graham has done but he is much better behind the keyboard than in front of the screen.

Yes. Few people are really good at both.

@Glinner "No fookin' problem x"

I think that serves as a reply to most of us

@Glinner! Thanks for dropping in, and just generally -- thanks.

My stepdaughter was absolutely told that ‘being born in the wrong body’ was likely the reason she was so distressed at growing breasts, by the school bloody counsellor, no less!

This makes my blood boil. I have granddaughters and I truly fear for them, growing into this mad world.

lamahaha thanks for making this general point as it encapsulates something I have found in my own career. As an introvert, I am a bit fed up of the pressure to perform well in public that makes a lot of people feel they are lacking because they are not natural showpeople but who have brilliant 'behind the scenes' skills.

Just watched it and I thought he came across as very thoughtful and concerned in the face of hostile questioning and surprising ignorance on Sarah Smith's part.

I loved his point about this being a hinge moment in history that means we should all speak up for what is right.

Newsnight regularly has around half a million viewers so loads of people will have been exposed to this debate for the first time, and hopefully they will be looking in to this more deeply, and wondering why 35 people have recently resigned from the Tavistock.

It must have been incredibly hard to do that interview, but it will certainly help to make a difference, so wanted to add my name to the long list of people saying thank you Glinner.

I am really worried about him. Glinner - please look after yourself and thank you for everything you do.

Me too. @Glinner you've had an enormous amount of publicity in a few days, and an enormous amount of hateful people attacking you. Please take a break from Twitter, come back when you've had a rest from it all.x

That was a tough interview but I can think of loads of women who would have handled it better, because they'd have had all the facts at their fingertips, they would not be immediately on the backfoot trying to justify a nazi analogy (Oh the irony!), and most importantly they would have been advocating for all women, not just Kathleen Stock and Jane Clare Jones (no disrespect to either of them) or whichever other select few women Glinner identifies as representing/

Perhaps you're right. But the truth is that Newsnight didn't invite those women on, they invited Glinner on. They invited him because he is high-profile and is in the news. Of course, he could have said, "Don't interview me, interview Jane Clare Jones." Do you really think Newsnight would have said, "OK, we will, that's a great idea"? That's not how media works, unfortunately. Glinner no doubt did the best he did under what sound like incredibly stressful circumstances.

I've not watched it yet, but I just wanted to say thanks Glinner for standing up for women and girls

he could have said, "Don't interview me, interview Jane Clare Jones."

And he name checked her and others and pointed out they get told to shut up or intimidated.

Thanks Glinner, I was expecting a real car crash after reading the thread here, but you put your points across really well under hostile questioning.

Btw, segment is up on youtube for people without a bbc login or overseas.

Thanks Glinner

I watched it live. I had a think about it this morning. I asked myself which is the stand-out point I remember the most vividly?

It's Graham Linehan getting in the information about Lupron, and that it is a prostate cancer drug, an end stage treatment, being used to experiment on girls.

I think a lot of people watching will have been unaware of this until that moment.

I had to steel myself to watch it after some of the comments, but actually I though he did really, really well.
Got so many of the most important points across.
Well done Glinner. You were great.

Can anyone work out what GL was saying when SS completely talked over his answer? It was the the second half of the segment. I had subtitles on and they were baffled, too.

Waves to @glinner (you retweeted my thread about the school and my daughter a couple of months ago - @rodgmum on Twitter) so seeing you are popping in here, thank you!

I watched the interview again this morning and I think Glinner came off quite well. If you know about the issue, you are likely set in your views. However, if I didn’t know anything about it, I think the points made would pique my interest.

I’ve sent an email via Newsnight to Sarah Smith outlining my concerns over some of her statements - e.g. “it’s their choice”- it’s not an informed choice IMO, etc- and have related our experience with our daughter. I know she’s unlikely to ever see it, but it’s one more attempt at chipping away.

I had to steel myself to watch it after some of the comments, but actually I though he did really, really well.

Ditto.

I often feel that when the 'experts' are interviewed it becomes way too complicated for your average Joe Bloggs. Well done Graham, people need to hear the simple, shocking, statements e.g."Children are being experimented on"

Lupron is the American brand name for leuprorelin acetate. The UK brand name is Prostap. It's main indictaion is as Glinner said for prostate cancer. It can also be used for endometriosis and to reduce the size of fibroids though, so is used in women, but for endometriosis it is limited to 2 injections every 3 months so a maximum of 6 months treatment and it clearly states in the BNF that the course is not to be repeated. For fibroids a lower dose is injected monthly for again a maximum of 6 months.
The BNF for children says that it can be given 3 monthly for precocious puberty but that this is an unlicensed indication. Delaying puberty that is occurring at the normal time is not any sort of indication and as such is experimental use and should only be occurring in clinical trials if at all. I really worry about its potential effect on stunting brain maturation.

Triptorelina is used in the UK. If anyone wonders about it being experimental or otherwise, they should read Micheal Biggs’ document on the Tavi’s Triptorelina “experiment”.

users.ox.ac.uk/~sfos0060/Biggs_ExperimentPubertyBlockers.pdf

There is a Mumsnet poster named Tammy who received one of these drugs as a treatment for endometriosis and has been struggling with all kinds of systemic side effects ever since. Her story is very compelling.