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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Glinner in Mail on Sunday today

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Lamahaha · 09/02/2020 05:36

Fabulous article:

Speaking out against transgender extremists has made me the most hated man on the internet, writes Father Ted creator GRAHAM LINEHAN

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7982837/How-hated-man-internet-writes-Graham-Linehan.html

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HandsOffMyLangCleg · 09/02/2020 07:58

No debate? Oh, there’s going to be a debate all right.

Thanks Graham. A solid piece that captures my thoughts exactly.

Cuntysnark · 09/02/2020 08:00

He doesn’t beat about the bush! Great article. Can’t wait for the comments.

MoltenLasagne · 09/02/2020 08:03

Fantastic article, and how heartening to see he's donated his fee to Woman's Place as well.

Clymene · 09/02/2020 08:06

Very glad he got in a) Stonewall is a lobby group and b) safeguarding

ChattyLion · 09/02/2020 08:35

Linehan concedes that many well-meaning people think that the debate about transgender is “like the gay issue” but says there is a fundamental difference. “The gay issue was telling people they were fine the way they were. The gender ideology . . . tells them they are in the wrong bodies and must change their bodies to fit into a sexist and homophobic society. When I first got into this conversation I would see young girls getting double mastectomies and hysterectomies and I didn’t think I’d have to talk about it long. I thought others would see this was obviously wrong, and step in. “None of that happened. I’ve been left swinging in the wind by people who I thought were my friends. I have to keep speaking out.” (Times article)

He’s a mensch. I have absolutely e respect for his rock-solid personal integrity in keeping on speaking out when he has nothing personally to gain and very much to lose. And he had dealt with cancer too for some of this time, (in the clear now, he has said elsewhere).

For a lot of people an experience like that would turn their attention and priorities inward (understandably) or at least make them want to step back and take a break from all the nasty bullshit that he gets on Twitter.

He’s very very talented at what he does professionally, so hopefully he gets some work picked up soon. I’m very grateful to him for continuing to speak out - because of who he is, his voice reaches people that others can’t reach. Turning the tide of opinion away from the toxic political mantras that children will feel better if they permanently change their bodies and that women must budge up and shut up, has always been about building up a very broad public awareness of what is going on. Glinner has made an amazing personal contribution to doing that.

FemiLANGul · 09/02/2020 08:38

I await with keen interest the delegation of the New Puritans assigned to Mumsnet this morning to arrive to tell us how utterly fuckwrong we are for approving of anything Glinner says

In b4 he was once mean to a woman on the internet so youse are all cheering on a misogynist.

FemiLANGul · 09/02/2020 08:44

This might be the article that outs me as GC. It's laid out so clearly and concisely that it needs to be read by as many people as possible.

JillAmanda · 09/02/2020 08:45

Brilliant.

MingeofDeath · 09/02/2020 08:50

I've taken the plunge, it's been shared on FB

ChattyLion · 09/02/2020 08:53

It's laid out so clearly and concisely that it needs to be read by as many people as possible.

Agreed. I’ll add the Daily Mail article link to the ‘break it down for me’ thread because it covers various of the bases readably and articulately.

T0tallyFuckedUpFamily · 09/02/2020 08:57

That’s such a brilliant piece and I’m so glad it as in both papers. This seems to be an effort to make sure it’s seen by as many people as possible, at the same time, in order to get the pubic discussing the bullying and harassment of women by the trans ideology extremists.

Mockersisrightasusual · 09/02/2020 09:05

It would have to be an honarary knighthood for a forriner. Can have the gong but no "Sir Graham."

JustTurtlesAllTheWayDown · 09/02/2020 09:09

Wow. That hits the nail on the head.
As an aside, the wild accusations aimed at Glinner online recently are absolutely jawdropping.
He's having an affect. People are listening and it's clearly driving TRAs into a frenzy.
Glinner, I know you pop by here sometimes so just wanted to say thank you for speaking up so eloquently. I know you probably can't comment on legal proceedings relating to the latest nonsense aimed at you but know you have my support and good wishes. Flowers

CaptainKirksSpikeyGhost · 09/02/2020 09:09

It would have to be an honarary knighthood for a forriner. Can have the gong but no "Sir Graham."

You say that but Geldorf has got away with using Sir for decades.

LizzieSiddal · 09/02/2020 09:10

No debate? Oh, there’s going to be a debate all right.

Love this. Thanks Glinner!

Languishingfemale · 09/02/2020 09:11

All these forces working together are, whether they know it or not, providing a smokescreen for fetishists, conmen and misogynists to pursue their own agenda
This has been apparent since the start of this. A quick look at the backgrounds / writings of some of those feted by politicians and organisations demonstrates this so clearly.

DuchessDumbarton · 09/02/2020 09:12

Brave brave man.
Totally agree with every word

aliasundercover · 09/02/2020 09:24

It does however make me so sad that only a man will be listened to over this
JK Rowling showed that this is not true. More women should be speaking up about this.
Which of the Labour leadership candidates said these things? They’d have been heard. We have female political party leaders - who mentioned it during the election? We have plenty of succesful women writers and comedians, where are their voices?

Lamahaha · 09/02/2020 09:27

We have plenty of succesful women writers and comedians, where are their voices?

When I become a successful woman writer I will speak up. That's a promise. I'm working on it. Getting there.

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2Rebecca · 09/02/2020 09:31

Excellent article

MilesJuppIsMyBitch · 09/02/2020 09:35

Bravo Glinner!

aliasundercover · 09/02/2020 09:36

Lamahaha

Me too :)

Dozer · 09/02/2020 09:36

Many risks in these industries with doing anything to irritate employers/potential employers. Given the very high barriers to entry/earning an ongoing living, even more so for women/gay people/ people of minority ethnicity, don’t blame anyone for putting their income first. Can also applaud people who “rock the boat”.

Lamahaha · 09/02/2020 09:38

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