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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Puzzled - Philip Schofield

332 replies

howwillthispanout · 07/02/2020 20:37

Sorry if this has been covered already but I’ve been offline all day - has there been any discussion re PS’s announcement today on this board? Especially in relation to wife and daughters

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JayAlfredPrufrock · 07/02/2020 21:29

I’ve always presumed he was gay.

And at least he allowed someone to win MN today with

He’s come out of the Broom Cupboard

Other than that he’s a navel gazing tosser and the clips I’ve seen of Windy Hillbobby reading his statement were cringe inducing and worthy of a badly written sitcom.

dustibooks · 07/02/2020 21:30

It is possible that his wife has known for some time though. It makes me wonder why he's decided to announce it now, and in the way he did. Oh well.

AutumnRose1 · 07/02/2020 21:31

OP - you're asking if there was discussion on Feminist Chat? No.

in terms of impact on wife and daughters, I'm totally speculating but I imagine they always knew and that it's quite possible he's being blackmailed or something. He did not look like a man who wanted to share the information freely and happily.

anascrecca · 07/02/2020 21:32

Baked Brie 🤣

ThePluckOfTheCoward · 07/02/2020 21:34

I always assumed he was gay and couldn't give a shit about the over preening twit.

SarahAndQuack · 07/02/2020 21:34

Why is he not bisexual if he has had sex with a woman for years and fathered children?

I don't know - why is he not bisexual?

On the same subject, how come the sky isn't green?

Tombakersscarf · 07/02/2020 21:36

He said he had no secrets from his wife so if that's true then she must have known for however long he has known.
I've had a boyfriend who was gay, looking back it is really obvious but it wasn't at all obvious to me at the time. No one came out when I was at school.

BatShite · 07/02/2020 21:41

The amount of airtime this is getting is really starting to annoy me. The friends on FB all 'omg he is so brave, I cried' is getting worthy of rolling eyes emoticonc, shame theres not one on there.

On the other hand, the huge majority of my gay mates have either said nothing. Or said basically 'why all the fuss, noone cares these days' which tbh, I agree with. Though have been called homophobic once today for stating this of course. Which was immediately jumped on by a few lgb people and the virtue signaller was well and truly eaten alive, which was fun to watch Grin

I haven't seen much discussion of his wife and kids at all. Besides one snidey comment about how 'the wife must have known and just married him for cash' Hmm Of course.

HandsOffMyLangCleg · 07/02/2020 21:42

On the other thread somebody mentioned they had posted this on the Trans Widows thread as there are parallels.

On the other thread some are saying the wife knew but chose to stay with him. We are back to that word of 'choice' again.

Women being kind?

Do we ever hear about famous women coming out as lesbians and the supportive husbands and children who stood by them?

Why not?

AnotherNightWatering · 07/02/2020 21:45

Interestingly, there is a bbc article, "Phillip Schofield announcement: How it feels when your partner comes out as gay"

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-51413187

BatShite · 07/02/2020 21:45

There has been a dramatic change in attitudes towards homosexuality in the UK since the early 90s. It's hard to believe now but I do not doubt that in the 80s and 90s he felt under pressure to hide the fact he was gay. Section 28 wasn't repealed until the 2000s. I don't think you could have been an openly gay children's tv presenter in the 20th century.

I agree with this also though. I do get celebs hiding their sexuality in the 80s, and 90s to some degree. However, coming out in this day and age is not brave in the slightest. Infact, it seems that everyone is lgbt in some way, and you are quite odd if you are simply 'cishet'.

I do think it was incredibly brave to come out in earlier times though. And tbh, it seems the likes of football and stuff its still a rarity for someone to feel able to be out and proud. But bog standard 'celebs'..not really.

SonjaMorgan · 07/02/2020 21:47

I don't think it is at all homophobic to sympathise with his wife. No one held a gun to his head and forced him to get married. He chose to lie to his wife and have kids with her.

Whatnow32 · 07/02/2020 21:48

I think it's sad he's loved such a massive lie for so many years. It's damaging all around. He should be able to be who he wants to be though. I really feel for his poor wife though. To loose the man she married in this way must be tough.

I struggle to understand how people can do sexual things with something that they are not attracted too. I couldn't do things with a women as I am attracted to men. I would massively struggle to go near a women sexually. So I am shocked he managed to do that if he's not attracted to females.

He's not a bad guy though so hopefully he can find happiness and so can his wife. I was absolutely shocked. It was sad to see him sad!

sunshinesupermum · 07/02/2020 21:48

Why is he not bisexual if he has had sex with a woman for years and fathered children?

Some gay men can and do have sex with women. I should know I was married to one for thirty years and we had two children. For six years he was in a sexual relationship with another man.

It's got to the point where you can't call out a man for being a lying shitbag without it being phobic.

So true. It's the lies and deceit that as so destroying.

derxa · 07/02/2020 21:50

PS is an arsehole. Complete attention seeking.

Singsongbird · 07/02/2020 21:50

I think it seems he wishes he wasn't gay, but has denied it all his life and had reached breaking point. Yes, I feel so sorry for his wife but it's not an unheard of situation. In other cases they might have gay affairs or struggle so much they take their own lives. It sounds like he confided in his wife a long time ago so has not been deliberately deceitful.

Mycatismadeofstringcheese · 07/02/2020 21:51

I assume the reason that he’s come out now is that a tabloid has some compromising photos / evidence and it was a case of “come out or we’ll publish them”.
Didn’t they do that to Will Young?

SarahAndQuack · 07/02/2020 21:52

I don't think it is at all homophobic to sympathise with his wife. No one held a gun to his head and forced him to get married. He chose to lie to his wife and have kids with her.

It's not even remotely homophobic to sympathise with his wife. It's basic human decency. It is very disturbing that she is being pressured to be 'supportive' when she may very well be feeling anything but supportive. It's particularly disturbing that the narrative of a man coming out later in life still makes use of a woman's emotional labour - she is expected to be 'supportive' even though she might well want to say she's got far better things to do.

However. We do not know when he realised he was gay. It is not fair to assume he has lied, deceived her, or tricked her, into marriage.

MadamFlutterby · 07/02/2020 21:53

Oh leave him alone ffs.

Nobody knows, NOBODY, what goes on in a relationship.

sunshinesupermum · 07/02/2020 21:54

AutumnRose1 Highly unikely that they knew in my experience. Us straight wives are usually the last to know that our husbands are gay.
I do think he was under pressure of possibly being outed by a newspaper so made use of his programme to make a huge public song and dance about it and how supported his family is being.

Trust me behind closed doors they will be very conflicted. They don't need to be in the public eye, but now they are forced to be.

AutumnRose1 · 07/02/2020 21:56

"Us straight wives are usually the last to know that our husbands are gay."

But there are exceptions. This is PS, after all, who was assumed to be gay since....well, since he was on TV for sure. I can see advantages to marriage to a gay man.

So it's possible it was all okay and now some wanker from the gutter press has shot a happy family to shit.

wonderstuff · 07/02/2020 21:57

I don't think Andi Peters has publicly discussed his sexuality, no reason why he should I guess.

JayAlfredPrufrock · 07/02/2020 21:58

If they all knew and were happy then no harm has been done.

Mossyrock · 07/02/2020 21:59

Why the big announcement? His poor wife. 27 years.

AutumnRose1 · 07/02/2020 22:00

Jay "If they all knew and were happy then no harm has been done."

well, it has been if they wanted to keep it private and were forced to share the info.