My feelings about men

[BoxyLoxy]

Name changed, obviously.

Im a regular on here although mostly lurking.

I was wondering how other people reconcile their feelings about how fucking awful the patriarchy is, how men as a group are basically toxic and even the 'good ones' have an incredibly low bar for being decent humans.

Im married, and seriously reconsidering it because I feel this ongoing utter despair at the myriad injustices I put up with. I would NEVER EVER pursue a relationship with a man if I did leave.

Anyone else feel the same? Is this normal?!

I'm just hoping that CRonaldo has gone and made himself a nice cup of tea. Maybe a lie down.

Well he’ll have to make it for himself, because it’s obvious he can’t get a woman to do it for him.

Ruffle I’ve never been married, I find your observation interesting. I’ve heard it from another divorced friend, she felt it very strongly.

I am actually considering becoming a political lesbian... there are lots of men I like from a platonic point of view but I just can't be arsed dating them any more. How does one start though? Any top tips?

This is great news, I always secretly hope there many be a political lesbian revolution.

How to start? Well RL lesbians can often be found in the wild. Any meeting where Julie Bindel is speaking may well contain other political lesbians to share a pint with.

I like and get on with most people I meet, men and women. If I don’t like them, for whatever reason, I ignore them. In some situations I prefer the company of men, in others that of women.

Re the Germaine Greer video. I grew up in the 60s/early 70s, and I never noticed that radical feminists in those days sounded like Princess Margaret, even an Aussie like Greer. The way people speak has changed enormously.

CRonaldo I'm neither fat not middle aged but that was just one of your unfounded, sweeping generalisations.

If you're going to make such inflammatory statements at least back them up with actual evidence .....'my mate was screwed over by a woman' doesn't count.
Actual evidence. ... although you won't be able to because every single thing you've posted is simply the rantings of an angry man that can't cope with the fact that women are fighting back against the patriarchy, a system that benefits you just for existing.

Awww. I think his tantrum has worn him out. Bless.

@Goosefoot Brilliant post - I agree entirely.

But leading on from that @Goosefoot I have spoken to some men who didn't want that sexual revolution for exactly those reasons. Maybe a lot of men preferred it when there was a lot more control around sex. They feel provoked by women's overt sexuality. Not saying I agree with this at all.

Maybe men need to be open about the difficulties they have with aggression and sexual drive.

Why is breast cancer funded far more than prostate, despite prostate being more prevalent?

Do you know what, I'm going to bite on this one, because I think it's worth saying.

Firstly, I don't know tonnes about prostate cancer, but I'm pretty sure that breast cancer (particularly triple negative breast cancer) affects and kills more younger women. And of course, cancer research tends to be utilitarian in its approach, and there is lots of research going into triple negative at the moment as its the breast cancer that has yet to be 'unlocked'.

But, more than this, I can tell you that since the 1970s, women have worked their fucking arses off to raise awareness of breast cancer and also to raise funding for research, founding charities like Breast Cancer Care, Breast Cancer Now and Coppafeel, which was started by the incredible Kris Hallenga. Hence there is so much 'branding' around breast cancer, this didn't happen by magic, it is down to people (mainly women) working really hard to make it happen. Some people don't like the pink thing, they think it's sexist, call it 'pink washing' and believe it hides the reality of breast cancer. But the fact is, it has worked and awareness and funding for breast cancer has increased hugely in the last 40 or so years.

If men feel that they are losing out in terms of funding or awareness for prostate cancer, then they are of course welcome to put the work in to ensure that it gets the funding that it needs.

It's a bit like when women discuss DV and women's shelters, and men come out with 'well where is the help for male victims of DV?'

Men are perfectly able to campaign to help other men in whatever way they can. If they are not willing to do that... Well that's not on women to sort out.

Maybe men need to be open about the difficulties they have with aggression and sexual drive
I agree but that would be admitting a weakness and that would trigger them into feeling angry and defensive....🙄

@CallofDoodee so true. Women usually have a much greater capacity for empathy imo. They will raise money, campaign, and care for others. If breast cancer gets more air time it's because women are taking the time and effort to help themselves and each-other. Women have big voices nowadays, thankfully. I was this a few weeks ago when I had a mmc and went in for surgery. I was expecting a clinical, matter of fact approach to it but I was surrounded by caring women and there was so much sensitivity to my situation, even asking what I would like to do with the baby after the surgery. My mother 30 years ago was more or less told to 'get on with it'. I can only attribute the change to charities and women fighting for more awareness and understanding of women's issues

"Women usually have a much greater capacity for empathy imo."

Would that make women better at being nurses and primary school teachers?

*justlockthedoor' we have been socialised into believing women have greater capacity for empathy.

I’m currently working on ditching my empathy. I’m not sure it’s real and it’s great for other people but not me.

I train people in a profession where empathy is vital. I don't see a difference between men and women in their ability to display empathy.

Women usually have a much greater capacity for empathy imo. They will raise money, campaign, and care for others. If breast cancer gets more air time it's because women are taking the time and effort to help themselves and each-other.

I don't think that example is proof of more empathy; I think that women don't expect someone else to rock up and sort things out for us.
So we fundraise and organise Rape Crisis, DV shelters, and charities for women's cancers.
I talk to plenty of men online who think those things were provided for us, feel resentful, and wonder why men don't get the same treatment. They don't even know that women are taxed to pay for the services we use.

Have you honestly got nothing better to do?

I have a VPN tho so I will keep coming back.

Like a Jack In The Box with anger management issues.

So nothing better to do

No friends to pop up the pub with...i think its a nice day outside

Or maybe a good book? A movie?

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