My feelings about men

[BoxyLoxy]

Name changed, obviously.

Im a regular on here although mostly lurking.

I was wondering how other people reconcile their feelings about how fucking awful the patriarchy is, how men as a group are basically toxic and even the 'good ones' have an incredibly low bar for being decent humans.

Im married, and seriously reconsidering it because I feel this ongoing utter despair at the myriad injustices I put up with. I would NEVER EVER pursue a relationship with a man if I did leave.

Anyone else feel the same? Is this normal?!

My brother set the tone for what men are and how they operate in my experience. My mother never curbed his physical and verbal assaults. I used to think she was scared of him but I see her doing the same thing with DN.

Our dad died when we were young and DM told DB he was head of the house. Aged 10. And he was invested with that position and the power that went with it. . It was his right. We all suffered under it. He did too in a way it no one ever stepped in even though it was obvious he was a monster.

I am married to a man who had a very sudden shift of perspective when I gave birth and how that impacted on my career. And continues to do so. He benefits from marriage in ways I dont materially.
As i have grown older, i am less inclined to be a nice, helpful, smiley woman with time to shoulder all the worlds woes. Respond to the whim of everyone.
I work with the public and encountered men who seem to think I am a handmaid, they can ask me to do everything and I will oblige without a murmur.

When I say I am not able to exclusively available, there is a look of such bewilderment and offence inbtheirneyes I almost feel sorry for them. They have largely never had to just get on with something because they are programmed to expect a woman will be around somewhere to pick up after them or just take over.
And that's not an age thing either.
They are in the majority in my experience.

It's like an angry baby shaking its rattle at you, but less cute.

Any man who is against feminism and doesn't respect women is attacked by you feminists.

And you figured this out all by yourself?

And managed to type it all out with one hand too!

I think he needs a nap prodigal

Newsflash - loads of men who get tons of women fucking have zero respect for women whatsoever and see you as slabs of meat

Yeah we know

And possibly less sugar, Rufus.

flushedzebra I think your right ... it's as if once they know the women they're connected to are looked after, for want of a better phrase, they can happily exist in a bobble and the bad stuff, because it doesn't cone into their bubble, is something which happens in the news, films. Tv.

And the OP's point is being beautifully proved.

Any man who doesn't believe women should have equality with men isn't worth engaging with.

I think maybe its E numbers prodigal

Just for clarity, of course women can be, and are, aggressive and/or abusive. I think they also affect the perception of the class woman in the same way that rapists affect the perception of the class men. Women seem to exert their control within the family though, looking at the Stately homes threads. As individuals we can get out from under their influence.

This is not a ' women are just as bad as men' post. I'm trying to understand why women's controlling behaviour doesn't have the impact of men.

I think that's why some men suddenly "discover" sexism when they have a daughter, zebra. Makes it harder to ignore when there's this tiny human who you're meant to be responsible for and it starts to dawn that in a few years time men will be saying the same things about her that you and your mates used to say about the girls you knew.

Ha ha CRonaldoSucks, I'm not sure if it was actually your intention to prove the OP right, but you have. Men like you are who she's talking about. Carry on proving the need for feminism.

You posts, btw, if reported would be deleted for their abusive content. I'm not reporting though, because they prove the OP's point.

If MRAs have a use it's bringing women who'd otherwise generally disagree on many issues together in mutual recognition of how awful they are.

Please don't engage with GF

Oh no, not the pumpkin spice!

'You posts, btw, if reported would be deleted for their abusive content. I'm not reporting though, because they prove the OP's point.'

Not really. I have pointed out many areas women are privileged, but like the sly people you are, you've zoned in on my personal attacks to deflect from these:

'None of you have argued against any of the points I made eg the pay gap being a myth, the dating game being set up for women, women's hypocrisy in objectification, women accusing men of rape, prostate cancer being drastically underfunded in relation to breast cancer.

Let's ignore the attacks and focus on the

If the posts are actually upsetting anyone I'm happy to report. I'd rather use any MRA silly enough to turn up here as a chew toy personally.

most celebrity worship is done by women

A quick look at the billions spent on football says otherwise.