Lang Cleg 2

[TiredofthisBSbutIstandwithLang]

New thread as we got to 1000.

I am trying to follow my own advice so thank you for replying R0wantrees.

You were missed by so many people and it is wonderful you are back.

... here to tell us no one likes us or agrees with us.

Yeah, ok I'll 'fess up. All the de-lurkers are my sock accounts

Thank you Agrona
It was impossible not to re-join this very important conversation.

Everyone knows this is a forum for G.C people
No, it's a feminism board. Maybe it is where G C people come, but you must realise that there's not just one level of feminism?
There's going to be disagreement, we're not all the same.

Haven't said it yet, so welcome back R0!

All major social changes oscillate around the norm until they settle down to a sensible place and life goes on,
rather more tolerant than it started out.

At the moment Trans rights have oscillated into an area where they trample on women's and daughter's rights

In time it will oscillate and settle down

Hopefully MN will be a damper on the extremes rather than an accelerator.

I've wasted so much time and energy on good faith explanations to posters who have no similar intention or desire; and in doing that you fall into traps....... I must stop doing that.*

Beg to differ that it's a waste of time just judging by how many newbies we have, who previously only lurked. And I bet there are lots more still just quietly reading.
Post for the unseen audience.

In time it will oscillate and settle down

Too late for some women and children.

Post for the unseen audience

I agree! But we do have to be smarter....."SMART is an acronym that stands for Specific, Measurable, Achievable, Realistic, and Timely. Therefore, a SMART goal incorporates all of these criteria to help focus your efforts and increase the chances of achieving that goal. SMART goals are: Specific: Well defined, clear, and unambiguous".

Can I add, also mindful of the nature of the platform.

I agree! But we do have to be smarter....."SMART"

Totally agree, and I need to mind this acronym more, I sometimes get a little.... passionate 🤦‍♀️

Cheers for the reminder!

Troll hunting - frowned upon by MNHQ

Exactly.
Every. Time.
You post something against the majority, straight away posts trying to discredit, insinuating etc etc.

DARVO: "They're not hurting you; you're hurting them by saying they're hurting you."
????????

And then there are those gender critical feminists who have been on FWR for many years who simply disagree with how the actions of MNHQ have been interpreted.

I haven't namechanged in god knows how many years but I haven't been particularly active on here since transactivism became the main topic of conversation. I read but don't post a lot but supporting MNHQ is something I believe in - not because of blind faith in them but because in creating this community, they've given back. Yes it might be a larger more commercial organisation these days but for me, this was the first online community where women dominated the conversation and in listening to those women, I learnt a lot. And it changed my world.

I think some of the activity on here risks this space and for me, that's worth speaking out about. There's no agenda other than that.

Everyone knows this is a forum for G.C people

I must have missed seeing 'The GC boards' at the top of the forum.

Post for the unseen audience.

That’s what I have resolved to do.

I was very tempted to chuck the towel in this morning i’m so massively disappointed with Justine’s response. Why would I continue to contribute to her income?

But I need this space. Women need this discussion to continue and I won’t be pushed away. It matters too much.

That only happens when somebody is being a goady pedant.

Not narcissistic control attempts/abuse then? Someone should tell R0

Characterising disagreement or challenge as goady pedantry is not robust discussion of the sort FWR is so proud of itself for. It’s a cop-out.

No. That only happens when somebody is being a goady pedant

Not true, it happens to people who express a different opinion too.
People seem to sometimes take different opinions as being a goady pedant though.
Heaven forbid sometimes people just don't always agree or know their own mind

All Feminists are gender critical. However not all gender critical women are Feminists.
It is important to remember that right wing women love their children too.

But I need this space. Women need this discussion to continue and I won’t be pushed away. It matters too much

Definitely! It is compromising to have to mind your P's & Q's......but it is a valuable and fairly unique on-line space.......