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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Woman's Hour Jo Swinson Now - 6th Dec

257 replies

AbsintheFriends · 06/12/2019 10:17

Andrea Catherwood (?) interviewing and being quite tigerish. Seems to be in a mood to take no shit.

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Uncompromisingwoman · 06/12/2019 11:52

I reckon if you did a deep dive into the funding streams of many lobby groups and aggressive TRA campaigns to strip away women's sex based rights you might find some very compromising funding streams.

TimeLady · 06/12/2019 11:52

£100k cash donation confirmed on Electoral Commission website

search.electoralcommission.org.uk/English/Donations/C0414266

ThePurported · 06/12/2019 11:55

You reckon? The fact the Lib Dems are receiving money from pharma companies with an interest in making money from trans people is pure coincidence?

I was referring to JH's tweets about Spire Healthcare.
Ferring might be a different matter.

TruthOnTrial · 06/12/2019 11:56

There needs to be investigations full stop.

The level of political corruption makes a total farce of those parties.

TimeLady · 06/12/2019 12:00

Ferring was interested in this novel use for their expensive drug because they market Triptorelin, one of the GnRH antagonists used in gender clinics under the brand names Diphereline and Gonapeptyl.

The Amsterdam clinic was financially supported in its experimental project to block puberty in gender dysphoric adolescents by a pharmaceutical company which stood to make commercial gains from their new protocol.

www.transgendertrend.com/puberty-blockers-safe/

SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 06/12/2019 12:02

I heard part of this interview when I woke up this morning (I have insomnia so I had set my alarm late this morning, so I actually woke up to this discussion). I thought the interviewer was doing a great job of trying to get Jo Swinson to see the issues, and discuss them, rather than just parroting her party's line, but Jo's answers simply infuriated me - as did her use of cis women and trans women ARE women.

I was planning to vote LibDem - they are the party most closely aligned with my political leanings - I refuse to vote Conservative, and whilst I like some of Labour's policies (and was raised socialist), I feel he and Momentum have taken the party too far left. I'm in Scotland, and am anti-independence, so I can't vote either SNP or Green - so now I have no idea what I am going to do.

Arghhh - I am too tired for this shit.

SonicVersusGynaephobia · 06/12/2019 12:05

Not read the thread, I am only halfway through the interview, but OH. MY. GOD.

Emma Barnett is the interview? I just googled her and she is 34? She's incredibly strong. I am so impressed.

Jo Swinson is a fucking idiot.

DeBoostedOnWomansHourTwitter · 06/12/2019 12:06

(NC-ed quickly) - some of my tweets on the Womans' Hour tweet re this are being removed/I can't view them. I don't know what's going on. Can anyone screenshot the first few of them? Have I been de-boosted?

SarahTancredi · 06/12/2019 12:07

This is a disaster.... just listening on catch up.

She cannot answer a single question can she. Bloody hell. So they can send emails/letters telling women they dont want them cut she cant tell a serial sexual harasser to bugger off out the party? Hmm

TheTinselrati · 06/12/2019 12:09

just listening to it now. I can't believe Jo Swinson raised the "violent lesbian abuser" defence again Shock

now onto all the suicidal trans people &

she's swallowed every dogy cliche unquestiongly - no critical thought whatsoever

Justhadathought · 06/12/2019 12:13

I'd love to know what is going on at the BBC. It seems to be a complete about face

I reckon the BBC's woke department thinks they can contain the issue by 'hiding' it away on Woman's Hour.

TruthOnTrial · 06/12/2019 12:15

Anyone got a link they can share to the relevant WH twitter

ThePurported · 06/12/2019 12:17

Ferring was interested in this novel use for their expensive drug because they market Triptorelin, one of the GnRH antagonists used in gender clinics under the brand names Diphereline and Gonapeptyl.

Now this is interesting. Ferring has donated to LD regularly since 2013, about £1.5m in total.

GCAcademic · 06/12/2019 12:18

just listening to it now. I can't believe Jo Swinson raised the "violent lesbian abuser" defence again

I can. Like all adherents of this ideology, she is homophobic.

NeurotrashWarrior · 06/12/2019 12:19

Listening now, once again the pertinent statistic missed here is the the number of TW who do not get the operation.

And once again, not getting the idea of sex v gender.

Just choked at "TWAW."

What was that stat, 80-90% don't get an operation?

Jo Sw believes in the female penis?

SonicVersusGynaephobia · 06/12/2019 12:25

Again, someone in the thread has probably said this already but I am so flipping thankful that the women at the BBC (Maitlis, Garvey, Barnett in the last few days alone) are FINALLY saying "enough of this shit, we are going to talk about this" and getting this policy the sunlight it needs.

THANK YOU! To all the women, the normal everyday women, who have just kept on talking, despite the threats of violence, job loss, police action, etc who have kept pushing this when at times it felt like all hope was lost.

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MockersFactCheckMN · 06/12/2019 12:28

Jo Swinson is a fucking idiot.

There are millions of fucking idiots in this country, and they have a right to be represented.

She sounded totally unprepared and expecting something else: Why should women vote for you? - I'm a mummy with two lovely kids, and BJ and JC are Men, which is Sexist.

TruthOnTrial · 06/12/2019 12:31

She has shown sexism and homophobia, and a penchant for chucking vulnerable women under buses.

No vote.

BovaryX · 06/12/2019 12:34

Hence we aim to reform the law to include self-identification

John McDonnell has just said this on webchat

Justhadathought · 06/12/2019 12:36

Jo Sw believes in the female penis

In for a penny, in for a pound......

If you take on board transgender ideology then you have to go the whole way......if being a woman is in one's mind or soul - then it follows that body has got nothing to do with it......

SarahTancredi · 06/12/2019 12:40

If you take on board transgender ideology then you have to go the whole way......if being a woman is in one's mind or soul - then it follows that body has got nothing to do with it

Exactly

If you think TWAW then what's with the risk assessments or separate routes etc

Either everyone is who they say they are in which case you treat them.the same as every other woman or you dont, in which case you clearly dont believe it yourself so why the hell should we?

Justhadathought · 06/12/2019 12:45

I'd have been interested to see Jo Swinson being probed on trans kids......this is where a lot of 'normal' uninformed people start to have serious questions. If you take on board TRA demands this is where it inevitable leads, though.

TruthOnTrial · 06/12/2019 12:45

Stupid stupid stupid.

Sex has no bearing, no, brings no bias, no, not at all.

Pfft!

The whole scientific community is wrong.

She showed us all she doesn't have any real answers the real life questions.

Ooo, but this person did this. Once. Maybe.

Open your eyes this is now about pharm, drug money and political corruption, including the impeachment man trump and his pharma angle on upping all the drug trade prices.

Can a woman have a 'snip' op. Does a woman need a gynae/obstetrician, is the world going mad? Some in it seem to be perverting the truth, for vast sums of money and tra causes.

SawingForTeens · 06/12/2019 12:51

Truth:
twitter.com/BBCWomansHour/status/1202891110345007104

SarahTancredi · 06/12/2019 12:55

Alot of people calling emma rude Saying she gave a tough interrogation.

They were simple questions though.

Jo just had to give an answer.

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