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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Lush has fallen

239 replies

WomanBornNotWorn · 30/11/2019 11:21

One more shop to walk past

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Lush has fallen
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eve1003 · 02/12/2019 17:06

Totally agree......there is a lot of fake news on here. As an employee I hear first hand of the charities they support.....financially and with their products. Everything is ethically sourced and humane rights are enormously protected and supported by the Company. I believe these comments are uploaded extremely naively......perhaps others should do some homework on Lush before they discredited so easily Angry

T0tallyFuckedUpFamily · 02/12/2019 17:13

Did you just agree with your own comment eve1003? You must have slipped up on your name change. Grin

littlbrowndog · 02/12/2019 17:15

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PanicAndRun · 02/12/2019 17:16

GrinGrinGrin

MockersFactCheckMN · 02/12/2019 17:17

When Sock Puppets Attack!!!!

TheChampagneGalop · 02/12/2019 17:30

eve1003 has changed my mind with her facts. I will never upload naive negative comments about Lush again.

wrongsideofhistorymyarse · 02/12/2019 17:32

Hahahaha. I thought the troops had been summoned.

This thread is full of sockpuppets.

SunshineCake · 02/12/2019 17:32
Grin
KatvonHostileExtremist · 02/12/2019 17:46

Oh Grin

Well that's me convinced!

HIVpos · 02/12/2019 17:48

So again I wonder aloud - why on AIDS day?

I think - it’s not a ‘glam’ issue is it? Many of us are old enough to remember it as the death sentence, known people who had the diagnosis back in those days, watched people in real life and in the media fade away and die.

It’s real - it is on the rise again - but it’s grim, scary and horrible. Maybe the Harry Potter generation folx these days can’t handle grim reality. They want strictly come dancing and drag race. They don’t even want to see the reality of the horses they back.

HIV is not on the rise again, it’s quite the opposite. In 2018 there was a 6% drop in new diagnoses from 2017 and a 28% drop compared to 2015.
Source With links to more PHE statistics : www.tht.org.uk/hiv-and-sexual-health/about-hiv/hiv-statistics

It is actually very much hoped that we will wipe it out by 2030 and steps are being taken towards this aim.

It it’s real, you can’t just stick a rainbow on it and it goes away. I saw one ribbon yesterday - ONE! And that was my sister...

I’m not sure what a ribbon has to do with it, given that worldwide there are more women living with HIV then men (about a third are women in the UK. If your sister was wearing a ribbon perhaps she might be able to tell you more?

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 02/12/2019 18:01

The red AIDS ribbon... she’s been wearing one since they started. What is there not to understand?

770000 people died in 2018 and about 37million people worldwide are HIV+ - 1.7m of these are children. Rates are dropping since it peaked, yes - but still high.

HIVpos · 02/12/2019 18:05

@TheProdigalKittensReturn

There are many areas in which the documented HIV+ rate among trans people is much, much higher than the population average. So that could be the reason? I don't think Lush would want to talk about the reason why though (hint - it's prostitution) because that's a circle that's impossible to square if you subscribe to the full set of woke beliefs.

I’d love to see your source on this. Perhaps give a comparison between trans people and other groups who are also disproportionately affected by HIV? As for citing just prostitution as being the reason...ouch... really? No other reasons for it?! Please explain further.

HIVpos · 02/12/2019 18:10

Thank you, so not on the rise. Actually very much decreasing in the U.K. worldwide has decreased over the years but more recently remained static.

The ribbon is to raise awareness for those who have died and support all those still living. I dislike misinformation

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 02/12/2019 18:20

What misinformation exactly did I give there? Why so keen to dismiss what is will still a hideous disease? 770000 people in one year not serious enough for you?

Datun · 02/12/2019 18:30

No other reasons for it?! Please explain further

I'm interested in this, because I, too, have read that transwomen have a statistically high AIDS risk.

What is the reason then?

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 02/12/2019 18:31

Or children - that’s the horror story - children and babies raped as a ‘cure’. COAB...

Birdsfoottrefoil · 02/12/2019 20:15

What is the reason then?

It’s obvious; GC womens discussing women’s rights is a well known cause of AIDS.

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 02/12/2019 20:17

I thought that caused willies to fall off?

Birdsfoottrefoil · 02/12/2019 20:20

And earthquakes

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 02/12/2019 20:23

No that’s wearing miniskirts surely? Didn’t you study science at school 🙄

TheProdigalKittensReturn · 02/12/2019 20:50

humane rights

Having their staff get their bare arses out for promotional purposes doesn't seem very humane to me.

HIVpos · 02/12/2019 20:56

What misinformation exactly did I give there? Why so keen to dismiss what is will still a hideous disease? 770000 people in one year not serious enough for you?

Nowhere have I insinuated a keenness to dismiss what is a hideous disease - although luckily nowadays a very treatable, if not curable one., so personally I would dispute “hideous disease” Nor have I said it’s not serious - of course it is, especially in many countries outside of the U.K. such as parts of Africa.

The misinformation you gave is that AIDS (or did you mean HIV?) is on the rise again, which as I already stated is untrue, so comes across as scaremongering. I quote a link showing how the numbers are reducing in the UK. There is a massive amount of work being done towards reducing the number of deaths from AIDS related illnesses and new infections. Of course not near enough, no one is denying that. It is important to try to keep detail in context.

TheProdigalKittensReturn · 02/12/2019 20:57

And here's the result of about 30 seconds in Google (the results I'm most familiar with are for my local area, and surely you don't think I'd be stupid enough to share something that "come get me, angry people who want women to shut up! " here).

www.avert.org/professionals/hiv-social-issues/key-affected-populations/transgender

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 02/12/2019 21:09

I didn’t say it was on the rise. I believe that someone else said that it was in some communities.

But have you any idea why it slipped by this year with very little mention? That was my question.

HIVpos · 02/12/2019 21:27

It’s real - it is on the rise again - but it’s grim, scary and horrible 8.04am today

As far as it slipping by this year, as far as I know it didn’t. There was a lot on the news and interviews with various activists. Also Interviews etc of Gareth Thomas and Prince Harry in the run up to WAD during HIV testing week. But then I follow all this.